[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-6: Transfers and Multi-national Networks

Matthew Kaufman matthew at matthew.at
Tue Jun 23 20:28:57 EDT 2015

On 6/23/2015 3:55 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:36 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us 
> <mailto:bill at herrin.us>> wrote:
>     On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net
>     <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
>     > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-6
>     > Transfers and Multi-national Networks
>     OPPOSED.
> Noted.  Can you read over my comments below, and then note why you 
> think it's a bad idea to ignore the geographic location where an 
> organization is utilizing its ARIN-registered addresses when 
> evaluating transfer requests?  I'm hoping to hear the consequentialist 
> argument behind your position, independent of the appeal to authority 
> (of the PDP) that you gave below.
>     Policy violates PDP section 3.2. The policy requires ARIN to consider
>     addresses used outside the region but the PDP restricts policy scope
>     to "number resources managed within the ARIN region."
> I believe that is the whole point: while these number resources may be 
> *used* outside the ARIN region, they are still *managed* within the 
> ARIN region (by a multinational network with meaningful business that 
> operates in the ARIN region, and is currently using IPv4 or IPv6 
> addresses in the ARIN region).  So I don't see a conflict with the PDP 
> here, just a disagreement with the principle of allowing use of 
> ARIN-issued and -managed addresses outside the ARIN region.

Makes sense to me. My management consoles rarely run in the same region 
where my VMs do.

Matthew Kaufman
matthew at matthew.at

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