[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2015-2

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sun Jun 7 11:27:39 EDT 2015


I don’t see any problem with ARIN staff assisting an author in crafting language that will yield the desired staff interpretation.

What do you see as the problem, exactly? (I’ll note that I think your description of what John offered differs from what was actually offered which I believe is more accurately described above).

Owen

> On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:36 , Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jason,
>  
> I do object to John Curran writing a policy proposal to be submitted to the community under another person’s name.
> It just seems wrong to me but I could be alone in that thought.
>  
> Regards,
> Mike
>  
>  
> From: Jason Schiller [mailto:jschiller at google.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 3:30 PM
> To: Mike Burns
> Cc: William Herrin; John Curran; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2015-2
>  
> Mike, 
>  
> If you object, I'm sure an AC member can be found to craft some text, and get staff and legal assessment.
>  
> FWIW, if you like this restriction, I think the rjletts approach catches it all:
>  
> If target registry does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
> reject transfer to target registry
> If target registry allows transfers out of their RIR to any other registry that does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
> reject transfer to target registry
> else
>                 accept the transfer
>  
> WRT this restriction and compatible needs-based policies, you may want to do the same...
>  
> If target registry does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
> reject transfer to target registry
> If target registry allows transfers out of their RIR to any other registry that  either
>          1. does not have a compatible needs based policy 
>    OR 2. does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
> reject transfer to target registry
> else
>                 accept the transfer
>  
> FWIW, its not just NIRs, I believe you could transfer IPs from ARIN to APNIC, and then from APNIC to RIPE.
>  
> __Jason
>  
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com <mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:
>> Tell me the words you'd accept as requiring transfer reciprocity and
>> compatibility go beyond lip service and I'll advance those words. Else
>> suffer the continued wagging of my finger.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
>> 
>> 
>> Well, now, I think that's a bit too much participation to ask of ARIN's
>> president. I support continued finger-wagging.
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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