[arin-ppml] 2015-2

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Thu Jun 4 16:00:06 EDT 2015


I take it from your tone that you don’t think that keeping the ARIN Registry Database is as important than Needs Testing.  If that is the case then why keep up the charade that the Registry is important at all?  Just change ARINs Mission to say that needs testing is more important than keeping the  Registry accurate.  This is what the current policies actually do in real life practice today anyway, as every single Legacy block that sells outside of ARIN that ARIN refuses to register makes the Registry more and more inaccurate.

I’ve seen quite a lot of folks in this community state in this forum that keeping the Registry Database current is important to them and I share that position.

Refusing to allow folks like Mike Burns to update the Registry info on the sale of a legacy block, when he will provide reasonable Contractual evidence to ARIN and the seller who is listed in the Registry will vouch that the sales has occurred, hurts everyone who needs the Registry to be accurate.

I know some folks in this community don’t like Legacy blocks being sold outside of ARIN but since it happens anyway, at least the Registry could be more accurate when it does – but then there I go again trying to apply some common sense.

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From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody at pch.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:09 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2015-2

Are you saying that your primary school education failed to cover rhetorical and logical fallacies?

If you want to have a conversation, you're welcome to, but you need to make sense.

                -Bill


On Jun 4, 2015, at 21:04, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com<mailto:SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>> wrote:
So are you saying  (since you were there) that one of the key reasons ARIN was formed was NOT to keep the Registry Database accurate?

Steven L Ryerse
President
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770.399.9099 - Office
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From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody at pch.net]
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On Jun 4, 2015, at 17:47, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com<mailto:SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>> wrote:
I would point out that ARIN is doing the opposite of fulfilling one of the main reasons ARIN was formed - and that is to keep the database accurate.

Funny, I was there, and I don't remember that being on the agenda. What I remember is balancing the need for aggregatability with the availability of independent blocks, and conservation of a scarce resourc e.  The notion that people who couldn't abide with the public interest should be catered to at everyone else's expense was not, to the best of my recollection "one of the main reasons ARIN was formed."
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