[arin-ppml] On USG 'granting of rights'

Bill Woodcock woody at pch.net
Thu Jun 4 08:09:03 EDT 2015

This is something we've had a plan for for fifteen years, but were unable to get traction with the other four RIRs on. At the time, two other RIRs.  :-)

Yes, it's an excellent idea. Unfortunately, inter-RIR politics meant that we got ERX instead, which is a crap idea. 


> On Jun 4, 2015, at 02:05, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2015 1:14 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> Finally: Legacy Registrations. Legacy registrations are not hampered by an
>>> ARIN contract - they don't have one. This means a legacy registrant would
>>> not have to overcome anything written in the RSA.
>> As a holder of legacy address space, I really had no interest in having ARIN
>> take over the registry that held the records of those assignments, but as
>> long as they were correct, I grudgingly accepted that outcome
>> (interestingly, ARIN then managed to subsequently change the records for one
>> of the blocks even though such a change was never requested.. it actually
>> made consolidating my holdings easier, but it shouldn't have happened).
> Apropos nothing, I sometimes wonder if it would be worthwhile to set
> up a "legacy registry" to maintain all the old out-of-contract address
> registrations. ARIN was pretty helpful when LACNIC and AfriNIC wanted
> split off. If it was the consensus of the legacy registrants to
> operate their own registry, I'd hope ARIN would be reasonably generous
> about it. Should even be easier than a normal RIR since a legacy
> registry would have no need for number allocations from IANA. And now
> that IPv4 addresses have a significant monetary value, I'd like to
> think we could find the funding to operate such a registry as well.
> That way we could get rid of the periodic legacy v. RSA battles that
> infest our policy discussions. The legacy registrants would have
> whatever policy they wanted to have at the legacy registrar and that
> would be the end of it.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> -- 
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