[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2015-2
matthew at matthew.at
Wed Jun 3 23:37:07 EDT 2015
On 6/3/2015 9:19 AM, Jason Schiller wrote:
> There are two classes of address users on the Internet.
> 1. Those whose need for IP addresses does not grow
> 2. Those whose need for IP addresses continues to grow
> In the case of the first camp, there is no competitive disadvantage if
> someone else buys all the
> available IPv4 addresses.
> In the case of the second camp, if your organization can buy enough
> IPv4 addresses to make it
> through until the date when wide spread IPv6 adoption occurs, or at
> least have a longer time
> horizon of addresses than your competitors then there is no business
> impact of running out
> of IPv4.
> On the other hand if you don't have enough IPv4 addresses to make it
> through until the
> date when wide spread IPv6 adoption occurs, and you run out before
> your competitors
> you risk losing growth going forward if there is IPv4-only content
> that your transit customers
> desire, or if there is an IPv4-only customer base your service want to
> You don't need an unlimited supply, you only need either enough to get
> you through transition
> or more than your competitor (which ever is less).
> I don't think it is safe to assume that all companies who need
> addresses for growth have already
> secured enough to get them through transition. (If that was the case
> we wouldn't be having this
> Certainly some organizations have decided not to complete below board
> transfers that they cannot
> currently justify under ARIN policy. Certainly some have decided not
> to secure a future in IPv4
> addresses because the risk is too high. Certainly some have limited
> their activities because of
> the level of risk, lack of transparency in pricing, uncertainty about
> IPv6 adoption time lines,
> uncertainty about the customer measurable impact of CGN, and a dozen
> other things.
> Nor do I think it is safe to assume that all the IPv4 addresses that
> could be made available have
> already been made available.
> Given that it is likely that there are organization that have not
> secured enough IPv4 addresses
> to get them through wide spread IPv6 adoption.
> Given that it is likely that there are still more IPv4 addresses
> available on the market for the
> right price.
> Given that there is always the possibility that IPv4 addresses could
> be returned and made
> available through the current mechanisms.
> Is it good for the community to legitimize and reduce the risk of
> below board transfers
> and futures for organizations that desire more addresses than they can
> justify for the
> next two years growth thereby supporting and encouraging the behavior
> organizations who are willing to spend more cash now get preferential
> access to IPv4
> addresses for potential future need over organizations that need
> addresses now
> (or in the next two year time horizon)?
Do you believe that allowing the transfers proposed in 2015-2 would
significantly do what you say is good for the community above?
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