[arin-ppml] On USG 'granting of rights' (was: ARIN-PPML 2015-2)

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Wed Jun 3 14:12:05 EDT 2015

On Jun 3, 2015, at 1:54 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us<mailto:bill at herrin.us>> wrote:
And have miraculously avoided getting it.

It is obvious that such an outcome would be quite welcome.
Again, it is upon others to pursue their particular beliefs if
they feel legal redress is called for.

Like when Microsoft was bribed with an offer to accept transfer of
millions addresses under the LRSA despite the plain policy language
requiring that it be done under the classic RSA.

Bill -

  Same answer as on 12 June 2012 (attached).


John Curran
President and CEO

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On Jun 22, 2012, at 1:27 PM, William Herrin wrote:

> So it's not the standard adhesion contract LRSA you have published on
> the web site... because if it was the same, the text of the agreement
> would have already been a matter of public record. It's actually a
> custom contract written for Microsoft that ARIN decided to call an
> Which kind of makes the claim that Microsoft signed "the LRSA" a
> little white lie...

Good Afternoon Bill -

 It truly is a honor to cover the same questions again and
 again, but as I am here to serve this community, I guess
 that it's good to be needed.

 As I noted _yesterday_, we sometimes have to make changes to
 the agreements as a result of being in s court proceeding -

 "ARIN has made changes registration agreements as part of
 legal bankruptcy proceedings, just as we make changes to
 accomodate federal and state governments which require by
 law their own court and venue to be specified. This is an
 inevitable consequence of dealing with the legal system.
 If you find yourself in a similar bankruptcy proceeding,
 then we will respond accordingly but cannot commit as each
 case has unique aspects."


John Curran
President and CEO

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