[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2015-2

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Mon Jun 1 17:52:06 EDT 2015

On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:34 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:11 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>>   Ultimately, these matters are resolved based on mutual cooperation
>>   and a shared fabric of trust; while the registry may be an important
>>   common element of that fabric, that is still not the same thing as a
>>   legal right against the parties who participate.
> Discuss. With. ARIN. Counsel. Because you're plain wrong.

Bill - 
  This has already been done, with several different attorneys over the 
  course of many years.  Please feel free to provide any available references
  to support your interesting perspective, and I will undertake the task again
  with your information in hand.

  (Mind you, it would be trivial to create the rights you suggest via ARIN’s 
  registry service agreement and those customers who participate in the 
  "routing infrastructure on the public Internet” – in theory, that would be 
  no different that the rights you assert registrants already have, but the
  difference between theory and practice is likely to be quite large, i.e. 
  there would likely be a number of service providers unwilling to accept
  such a legal obligation, despite their faithful adherence to the registry
  contents for determining bona fides for routing.)


John Curran
President and CEO

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