[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal Idea: Reassignment records for IPv4 End-Users

Gary T. Giesen ggiesen+arin-ppml at giesen.me
Tue Jul 14 11:08:24 EDT 2015


Is it your intention to create a single class of users (ie. no more End-User vs ISP), or maintain the distinction? I'd like to see end-users be able to SWIP, but I'd don't want to see their costs increase because of it. Also, ISPs will argue if end-users can SWIP (which is probably the biggest technical distinction between the two right now ) and pay far less, they'll either argue their fees should be lowered, the end users fees should be raised, or try to game the system by applying as end-users.

Do we have any indication from ARIN staff as to what the implications in terms of cost/workload would be if end-users would be allowed to SWIP? Again, if the impact is minimal (ie no raising of end-user fees) and sufficient language was put around who they could SWIP to (ie only organizations in which the parent owns a controlling share, etc) then I would support this.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Dul
> Sent: July 13, 2015 11:31 AM
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal Idea: Reassignment records for IPv4 End-
> Users
> The AC has been discussing the following ideas on their list and I have drafted
> the following policy proposal as an outcome.  We are posting the ideas and
> proposal here to PPML for community discussion.  This draft has not been
> submitted formally to the PDP process at this point.  I believed having initial
> feedback from the community before submitting would be a valuable
> addition before going into the formal process.
> You comments are welcome.
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> ====
> 1.    Policy Proposal Name: Reassignment records for IPv4 End-Users
> 4.    Problem Statement:
> End-User Organizations do not have the ability to create reassignment
> records in the number resource database.
> Reassignment records can be used for a number of different functions which
> could benefit the overall desire to increase database accuracy by allowing
> organizations to add additional details in the database.
> The following reasons have been noted as positive reasons to allow the
> creation of additional records.
> -    Geolocation (allows an organization to specify a different location
> within the database which is used by organizations creating geo-location by
> IP address databases)
> -    Subsidiary reassignment (allows an organization to note that a
> portion of their netblock is in use by a different subsidiary entity)
> -    Assignment to contracted parties (some organizations have contracts
> with other organizations which are operating networks under agreements
> with the registrant, this allows the top-level organizations to accurately
> specify the organization operating the network in the number resource
> database)
> -    More specific contact information (some organizations operate large
> networks which don’t necessarily have the same technical or abuse contact
> information)
> 5.    Policy statement:
> Create new section 4.3.x
> End-user organizations which have an active registration services agreement
> shall be permitted to create reassignment records in the number resource
> database.  Organizations shall use the guidelines outlined in section 4.2.3
> when creating reassignment records.
>      a.    Timetable for implementation: immediately
>      b.    Anything else:
> It is noted by the author of this policy proposal that one of the distinctions in
> the service between ISPs and End-Users has been the ability for an
> organization to create reassignment records.
> This policy proposal stretches across responsibilities areas as it impacts
> number policy, ARIN operational practice, and fees.
> Below we have noted the three areas and the different responsibilities:
> A)    Providing reassignment support for end-user assignments, for those
> who wish to use it
> This is an ARIN Service issue - could be an suggestion/consultation process,
> so long as any implied additional workload/cost can be accommodated in
> budget and the community supports
> B) New requirement on end-users to provide reassignment information in
> certain circumstances so that ARIN will treat their usage assertion credibly
> This is a policy issue.  These requirements should be vetted through the
> policy development process.
> C)    Fee Implications of ISPs moving to end-user category
> This is Board issue, but first requires a community discussion or consultation
> to be held to solicit community input on desired outcome.
> ====
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