[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-5: Out of region use

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Fri Jul 3 15:05:11 EDT 2015


On Jul 3, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Tony Hain <alh-ietf at tndh.net<mailto:alh-ietf at tndh.net>> wrote:
The entirety of 2015-5 is misguided in that it starts from the assumption
that the resources are ARIN property to begin with, then assumes that the
registrant is engaged in a business activity.

Tony -

   That’s not a correct characterization - Internet number resources are global
   in scope, but often administrated by entities that only have a specific service
   region or scope of services.   ARIN has a defined service region, and it is a
   valid question what defines an entity (legal presence, operational nexus, etc.)
   for purposes of who ARIN provides services to...

As far as I know, ARIN is a
registration facilitator for a set of global resources, and one could argue
that if NASA wanted to use some for communication between here and Mars,
that would still qualify as valid and 'out of region’.

   It would - if NASA was the requester, there’d unlikely to be any issue…

   If the request came entirely from the other end, we presently would not
   provide services due to their lack of a meaningful legal presence in the
   region.

The entirety of the
current language needs to  be scrapped, and start from the perspective that
it is simply to clarify that the resources are for global use, and ARIN's
role is simply to be a facilitator within a reasonably local time-zone, and
having local language support.

  Even under such a definition, we’d like refer the requesters from Mars to their
  service provider for their number resource needs, as their time zone is either
  formally undefined or not be reasonably local depending on one’s perspective.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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