[arin-ppml] IPv6 End-User Initial Assignment Policy (or: Please don't me make do ULA + NAT66)

David Huberman David.Huberman at microsoft.com
Tue Feb 17 15:45:44 EST 2015


Does Gary's concrete suggestion -- adding a qualifier that you can get approved for IPv6 space if you have 13 more sites, with no other criteria -- make sense to you? Would you support it?


-----Original Message-----
From: mcr at sandelman.ca [mailto:mcr at sandelman.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:42 PM
To: Gary T. Giesen
Cc: David Huberman; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IPv6 End-User Initial Assignment Policy (or: Please don't me make do ULA + NAT66)

Gary T. Giesen <ggiesen at giesen.me> wrote:
    > That's obviously a consideration but I don't want to build an IPv6
    > adoption model for my customers around something quite so fuzzy where
    > one customer could be approved and another be denied. I prefer
    > something a little more concrete that I can point a customer to an say
    > "apply under this" and it's plain to them (and ARIN) that they qualify.

I completely hear you.
I've argued repeatedly (back to 2007) that this BS about routing slots is onsense, and that these kinds of policies are preventing adoption of IPv6 by small and middle sized enterprises.

It's just not ARIN's job to protect routing slots.

I'm not clear if the resulting /40 will be announced at all.
If it will remain internal with IPVPN, and then, with a PI prefix from each
*local* ISP, then you have the classic Non-Connected Network.

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