[arin-ppml] An interesting policy question
jschiller at google.com
Thu Dec 3 09:26:54 EST 2015
One clarification on Bill's email.
>From ARIN's perspective (as I understand it) the answer is:
>1. No, the RIR does not need to be notified, BUT...
>2. If the new locations are no longer in ARIN territory, those
>addresses are counted as unused the next time that organization wants
>addresses from ARIN. As a result, the organization may not qualify for
If the IP addresses are used outside of the ARIN service region, but
part of a globally contagious network that exists in part in the ARIN
service region and the covering aggregate is announced from within the
ARIN service region (also announcing the aggregate and / or more
specific outside of the ARIN service region is acceptable), the the
addresses can be considered utilized (assuming they meet ARIN's
definition of in use).
If the IPs are for servers in a data center that is a stub network
which is not contagious with a network in the ARIN service region then
those IPs would not count as in use. If you total utilization is
below 80% you would not qualify for more IP space.
Bill, and my comments are based an multiple interactions with ARIN and
Public Policy Meeting discussions surrounding "out of region use".
If you truely want to know what if ARIN staff would consider a use
case as justified, you should directly engage the ARIN staff.
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:13 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com> wrote:
>> Company A provides 100 customer dedicated server service at location A, Ripe
>> makes an assignment for 100 IP for his infrastructure, if, under condition
>> that no other factor was changed, Company A moved his infrastructure to
>> location B, but still providing same service to same customer, does the
>> company's action need to be notified to RIR?
>> Company A provides web hosting service, but any casted in 3 location, and
>> has provided the evidence of 3 location to the RIR during the time the
>> company getting valid assignment, then A decided to cut 3 location to 2
>> location, does this invalid original assignment and need to be notified to
> Hi Lu,
> >From ARIN's perspective (as I understand it) the answer is:
> 1. No, the RIR does not need to be notified, BUT...
> 2. If the new locations are no longer in ARIN territory, those
> addresses are counted as unused the next time that organization wants
> addresses from ARIN. As a result, the organization may not qualify for
> more addresses.
> Bill Herrin
> William Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us
> Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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