[arin-ppml] An interesting policy question

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Thu Dec 3 09:03:48 EST 2015

On Dec 3, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com<mailto:h.lu at anytimechinese.com>> wrote:


We all know that before the no need policy, when Ripe makes an assignment, while the "need" has changed, the assignment become invalid.

The question come to what the definition of need. Below I have few examples, please provide your view:

First one:

Company A provides 100 customer dedicated server service at location A, Ripe makes an assignment for 100 IP for his infrastructure, if, under condition that no other factor was changed, Company A moved his infrastructure to location B, but still providing same service to same customer, does the company's action need to be notified  to RIR? And does this action considered invalid the original assignment?

Second one:

Company A provides web hosting service, but any casted in 3 location, and has provided the evidence of 3 location to the RIR during the time the company getting valid assignment, then A decided to cut 3 location to 2 location, does this invalid original assignment and need to be notified to RIR?

So the bottom line is, what is the definition of need, is it defined as the service you are providing or defined as whole package of any of original justification material was provided, if was the later, then does it imply that anything, including location of the infrastructure, upstream providers etc has changed due to operational need, it will be considered as change of purpose of use and need to be notified to RIR?

What should be the right interpretation of the policy by then?

Lu -

    The ARIN Public Policy Mailing list is a forum to raise and discuss policy-related ideas and
    issues surrounding existing and proposed ARIN policies.   You should refer your question
    regarding RIPE policy matters to the appropriate RIPE mailing list.


John Curran
President and CEO

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