[arin-ppml] Team Review - policy matter?

Matthew Kaufman matthew at matthew.at
Thu Sep 25 13:16:03 EDT 2014

On 9/24/2014 4:01 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I think that depends. If the supply continues to exceed demand, probably not. At the point where transfer demand exceeds supply and transfers start developing a waiting list, then it might make sense. I trust staff to use good judgment for this.

On which public market would one view information that showed whether 
transfer supply exceeds demand or the reverse? Where would this "waiting 
list" be kept? And isn't "price" also related to supply and demand?

And if there's no open market, and no market makers (those being 
prohibited by ARIN policy and all), and no single "waiting list" 
(whatever that would mean... I'm sure there's people 'waiting' for 
addresses to be $1/ea while other people are not 'waiting' because 
they're willing to pay $20/ea), then isn't trying to tie ARIN staff 
behavior to something that can't be observed a little limiting? Or even 

> What I don’t want to see is undue advantages being given to transfers over free-pool requests during a time when both are possible.\

Transfers already have the advantage that they allow one to get enough 
space to actually do something with it. A three-month supply barely 
gives you time to order the equipment that would use it.

> I do not believe ARIN should be creating incentives to use transfers vs. the free pool. As I said, as long as both remain, fairness should, IMHO, dictate that they be treated the same.

ARIN policy has already created incentives to use transfers vs. the free 
pool. What's the problem with that... that the free pool will last 
longer for the people who can't afford transfers?

Matthew Kaufman

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