[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-20: Transfer Policy Slow Start and Simplified Needs Verification
john.sweeting at twcable.com
Tue Sep 23 10:44:17 EDT 2014
Good morning PPML,
I just want to clarify that when Milton says "I want to make it clear that
I will not count that as serious or justifiable opposition to a policy
proposal in any AC deliberations.² he is only speaking for Milton and not
for any of the other members of the AC. There are currently 14 members on
the AC and each evaluates input from the community according to how they
perceive that input, there is no wholesale ³we will not count that
opposition² as we value each and every member¹s opinion.
Chair, ARIN Advisory Council
On 9/23/14, 8:08 AM, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> I do not believe IP as commodity is good for either operators, industry
>> community. It will however serve as a wealth generator for a select
>> which again is not the objective of ARIN. The good or bad of IP as a
>> commodity is probably not the discussion though. I apologize if I
>> thread drift.
>IP as a commodity is now a settled issue. We certainly are not debating
>that. However, your kind of religious opposition to market transfers
>often leads to expressions of opposition to policies that attempt to make
>the transfer markets work better for operators. I want to make it clear
>that I will not count that as serious or justifiable opposition to a
>policy proposal in any AC deliberations.
>Your contention that ARIN should not support commodity trades is negated
>completely by a simple logic:
>IF there is no more free pool, the only way to get additional v4 numbers
>is through the market. Ergo, ARIN's mission of number allocation requires
>it to make technically sound and economically efficient rules for market
>transfers of number blocks. IF ARIN doesn't do that, it isn't doing its
>Further, if ARIN insists on validating need before before allowing number
>blocks to be transferred, then ARIN is by definition validating and
>supporting commodity sales. So if you want to be consistent about ARIN
>avoiding any support for commoditization of numbers, you should advocate
>that ARIN get out of the business of needs assessment for transfers
>entirely. Then it would be neither supporting nor involving itself in
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