[arin-ppml] IANA transition and the risk of a failed RIR process

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Fri Sep 12 03:43:39 EDT 2014

Dear John,

thanks very much for this follow-up.
I think the point that Milton was making was that apart from a F2F
discussion at next month's ARIN meeting, there is no dedicated, open
mailing list hosted by ARIN to hold that open discussion about IANA
Stewardship transition. All other RIRs have such open mailing lists, so
ARIN's process looks a bit of a oddity on the overall scheme of things.

I personally fully support Milton's concern. I know many other people
who do too.

Kindest regards,

(own views)

On 09/09/2014 01:44, John Curran wrote:
> Milton -
>    Note that we're going to have a public discussion of the process to
> be used in 
>    this region next month at the ARIN meeting, and your input is most
> welcome
>    in helping develop the process to be used.
>    We will need a process for this region that works within an overall
> timeline for 
>    the RIR community, and must include receiving initial input,
> integration within 
>    the region, then consolidation amongst the RIRs, overall RIR
> community review, 
>    all in order to support a timely submission to the ICG.  There is
> an overall timeline
>    here that you may find helpful - 
> <https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/timeline-for-rirs-engagement-in-iana-stewardship-transition-process>
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO 
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:48 PM, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu
> <mailto:mueller at syr.edu>> wrote:
>> Today the IANA stewardship coordination group
>> <https://www.icann.org/stewardship/coordination-group> (ICG) released
>> a request for proposals for changing the IANA in ways needed to
>> compensate for the end of US government oversight.
>> I am assuming that since the RIRs were signatories to the Montevideo
>> Declaration <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-10-07-en>,
>> which called for globalization of the IANA functions, that most of
>> their members and participants support the IANA transition and want
>> to see it happen expeditiously.
>> The ICG, of which I am a member, has proposed a very open and bottom
>> up method for the transition. It has broken the problem down into
>> three types of IANA ‘customers’ – names, numbers and protocols – and
>> has asked each of these operational communities to convene open,
>> transparent processes to develop proposals with widespread public
>> support for a new IANA that can function without oversight by the US
>> government.  
>> The IETF has convened a reasonably open process, creating a mailing
>> list (ianaplan at ietf.org <mailto:ianaplan at ietf.org>) and chartering a
>> working group <https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ianaplan/charter/> to
>> develop a proposal.
>> Likewise, the names community has chartered a cross-community working
>> group
>> <https://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/draft-charter-ccwg-iana-stewardship-21aug14-en.pdf>,
>> led by the GNSO and CCNSO, to develop a names proposal.
>> I am sorry to report that ARIN and the NRO have not risen to this
>> challenge yet. We have not seen any call for input about how to
>> convene an open process – something which is _/required/_ by both
>> NTIA and the ICG.
>> The RIR’s proposed “process” for developing a proposal has  never
>> been discussed among the ARIN Advisory Council, nor has it been
>> announced or raised on the ARIN PPML. There was never a discussion as
>> to whether the process should be convened at the global level or at
>> the regional level. No mailing list for general discussion of that
>> specific topic has been convened by the RIRs as a whole. The web page
>> ARIN has thrown together about the transition
>> <http://teamarin.net/education/internet-governance/iana-globalization/>
>> does not describe or propose a process. There seem to be no methods
>> for interested stakeholders to submit proposals for the IANA
>> transition to the RIR community, and no plans for receiving public
>> comment about their draft proposal.
>> Instead, the assumption seems to be that ARIN, and APNIC and other
>> RIRs, will collect random “input” from poorly publicized face to face
>> sessions at their regional meetings, and then their staff will decide
>> what the proposal will be. There seem to be no plans for collating
>> and analyzing that input. There are not even plans for opening the
>> RIRs proposals to public omment.
>> Even worse than ARIN’s vacuum, APNIC has started off its
>> ”consultation” process by putting in front of the community the
>> staff’s own view as to how the new IANA should look, which calls into
>> question the neutrality of the process.
>> These process failings make the RIR’s proposed transition proposal
>> extremely vulnerable to challenge. Any aspect of the IANA transition
>> that cannot demonstrate a fair process and broad support from across
>> the spectrum of stakeholder groups is likely to attract criticism and
>> to fail the NTIA’s test. I am urging the RIRs to wake up and take
>> this transition process more seriously. In my opinion, the following
>> criteria need to be met before the RIRs can claim to have run a
>> legitimate process:
>> 1)      There must be a global, open mailing list devoted
>> specifically to the numbers part of the IANA transition. Not existing
>> regional lists.
>> 2)      The draft proposal developed jointly by the RIRs must
>> explicitly respond to public input
>> 3)      The final proposal developed jointly by the RIRs must be
>> subject to public comment on a global basis before it is submitted to
>> the ICG
>> Milton L Mueller
>> Laura J and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
>> Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>> http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/
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