[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Wed Sep 3 13:54:36 EDT 2014

So Martin, let’s say the worst case that you bring up here happens.  Would it really be much of change from the current situation. Folks with legacy /24’s sell them all the time, and I would point to the current experience in the RIPE region where the world has not ended with the relaxation of their needs testing.  The world would not end here in the ARIN region either!

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:26 PM
To: Christoph Blecker
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Christoph Blecker <cblecker at gmail.com<mailto:cblecker at gmail.com>> wrote:
I think the bigger problem is the concept as a whole.

To qualify for a /24 (which will be the new minimum for end users and ISPs alike if the ARIN Board adopts 2014-13, which has been recommended to it), you need to justify the use of 204 addresses in the next three months. This is an extremely low bar to justify.

It is extremely low.

This proposal as written would mean anyone with any kind of business license can just go up to ARIN and get a free /24 every year, no matter if they are actually going to need it or even use it. Doesn't matter if you're a shell corporation, or your local corner store. Free /24 for everybody.

I'm not sure it's attractive to abusers though. $79 to form a corp in FL and I believe an EIN is free, which you don't need to form the corp. A year waiting period if I read the badly written transfer language correctly.


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