[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Reduce all Minimum Allocation/Assignment units to /24
Owen DeLong
owen at delong.com
Thu May 1 02:35:00 EDT 2014
I support this change.
Owen
On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Kevin Blumberg <kevinb at thewire.ca> wrote:
> Bill Darte and myself will be the Sheppard's for this proposal. At this time we are working on the policy changes and vetting
> them against the text of the NRPM.
>
> I would appreciate feedback in regards to section 4.9 which is not mentioned in the current policy text but should probably be
> removed as part of this policy.
>
> 4.9 Minimum Allocation in the Caribbean Region and North Atlantic Islands
>
> The minimum IPv4 allocation size for ISPs from the Caribbean and North Atlantic Islands sector of the ARIN region is /22.
>
> 4.9.1. Allocation Criteria
>
> The requesting organization must show the efficient utilization of an entire previously allocated /22 from their upstream ISP. This allocation (/22) may have been provided by an ISP's upstream provider(s), and does not have to be contiguous address space. The organization must meet the requirement of efficient use of 4 /24s. Utilization Reporting and Justification. All other ARIN policies regarding the reporting of justification information for the allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 address space will remain in effect.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin Blumberg
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of John Springer
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:22 PM
>> To: David Huberman
>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Reduce all Minimum
>> Allocation/Assignment units to /24
>>
>> The analysis by David is, in my opinion, correct. This policy proposal is
>> receiving what in my experience is an unprecedented amount of community
>> support, _AS_WRITTEN_. Changes to the text require support be reiterated,
>> which might be unwanted and harmful to the text speed of the process.
>> Further desired changes should be submitted separately to avoid
>> interfering with the momentum that has been generated.
>>
>> The community is speaking and the AC is listening. What I am hearing is
>> get busy and get 'er done. If the policy proposal can be supported as
>> written, it should be. Any changes to the text as written will have to be
>> listened to and responded to and cannot speed things up.
>>
>> I am _NOT_ saying do not dissent, only that the conversation that ensues
>> will take time.
>>
>> Not to put words in Marty's mouth, but that is how I interpret what he is
>> saying.
>>
>> John Springer
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, David Huberman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Derek,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marty can be a bit gruff - it's part of his charm :) He's actually trying very
>> hard to help you achieve your goals. His observation you quoted is borne of
>> wisdom of
>>> dealing with the policy process for many years. Some may agree, or may
>> not agree. I happened to agree strongly with him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Owen's proposal, without modifications (or at least, not the one proposed
>> so far), has the best chance of succeeding, and doing so quickly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> /david
>>>
>>> David R Huberman
>>> Microsoft Corporation
>>> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
>>>
>>>
>> __________________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________________
>> ___________________________________________________
>>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> on
>> behalf of Derek Calanchini <derekc at cnets.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:13 PM
>>> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Reduce all Minimum
>> Allocation/Assignment units to /24
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> You seem very negative about this, disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing
>> is counter productive. Perhaps you could explain your concerns giving actual
>> reasons,
>>> potential fallout, issues, etc in the hopes of making it better....
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Derek Calanchini
>>> Owner
>>> Creative Network Solutions
>>> Phone: 916-852-2890
>>> Fax: 916-852-2899
>>>
>>> "Adopt the metric system!"
>>>
>>> CNS LOGO
>>> On 4/29/2014 5:15 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>>
>>> Owens change is simple and fast. Meddling beyond that is asking for
>> trouble. It's a no op. Leave it alone.
>>> Bring that to the PPC at NANOG and this is dead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Jimmy Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I support the proposed change as written.
>>>
>>> In addition, since Multihomed ISPs no longer have a different minimum
>>> allocation, I suggest removing the distinction between Multihomed
>>> and non-Multihomed ISPs:
>>>
>>> o 4.2.1.5 Delete the sentence that says "For multihomed ISPs...."
>>> Remove multi-homed distinction and requirements for initial
>>> allocations to ISPs.
>>> o Delete section 4.2.2.1 Standard or non-multihomed and
>> subsections.
>>>
>>> o Rename section 4.2.2.2 to remove references to Multihomed
>>>
>>> Prepend "When requesting a /24, demonstrate the efficient
>>> utilization of a minimum contiguous or non-contiguous /27 (two /28s)
>>> from an upstream."
>>>
>>> [Regardless if multihomed or not]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Template: ARIN-POLICY-PROPOSAL-TEMPLATE-3.0
>>>>
>>>> 1. Policy Proposal Name: Reduce all Minimum Allocation/Assignment
>> units to
>>>> /24
>>>> 2. Proposal Originator
>>>> a. name: Owen DeLong
>>>> b. email: owen at delong.com
>>>> c. telephone: 408-890-7992
>>>> d. organization: Hurricane Electric
>>>> 3. Date: 29 April, 2014
>>>> 4. Problem Statement:
>>>>
>>>> As we approach runout, more and more end users and smaller ISPs
>> will be
>>>> unable to obtain space from their upstreams and will be seeking space
>> from
>>>> ARIN. In order to meet these needs to the extent possible and to
>> make policy
>>>> more fair to a broader range of the ARIN constituency, we should
>> reduce the
>>>> minimum assignment and allocation units to /24 across the board.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Policy statement:
>>>>
>>>> Change the minimum allocation and assignment unit for all IPv4 single
>> and
>>>> multi homed instances to /20. This would include:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.1.5 Change all occurrences of /20 and /22 to /24
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.2.1.1 Change all occurrences of /20 to /24, and change 16 /24s to 1
>> /24.
>>>> Remove the example about 12 /24s.
>>>>
>>>> 4.3.2.1 Change both occurrences of /20 to /24
>>>>
>>>> 4.9 Change /22 to /24
>>>>
>>>> 4.9.1 Change all instances of /22 to /24. Remove the reference to 4
>> /24s.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6. Comments:
>>>> a. Timetable for implementation: Immediate, possibly through board
>> action.
>>>> b. Anything else
>>>>
>>>> END OF TEMPLATE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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