[arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Tue Mar 25 18:22:16 EDT 2014

Being the poster-child of offense to those who consider term-limits a good
idea.... finishing my 5th elected term(and last) this year....I assure you
I am not replying out of guilt.

I reflect on a quote by Daniel Defoe.  "All evils are to be considered with
the good that is in them, and with what worse attends them."  I do not
object to term limits on either the AC or BoT, but believe as Defoe
apparently did, that there is good news and bad news in everything.  Those
for and against term limits continue to weigh in with good examples and

>From personal perspective, I consider that I have contributed more and less
than other members of the AC in past years and largely in different ways
and with different experience and point of view.  I say frankly that I
would have refused to stand for election had a single person ever suggested
that I not. Indeed, I determined to retire two terms ago, but was urged to
stand again and again by members of the community whom I know and trust.
 Incidentally, I believe I garnered more votes than any other candidate in
every election save a single person in 2005.

So, I am ambivalent. Many may have wished I had not run for any of my
terms, but those voices were silent (at least to me) and the voting record
of those who have been engaged in that process have told a different story.
Presumably each one reviewed candidate credentials and heard them state the
case for their candidacy standing before the community.

You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some
of the time.....were all those people fools or fooled by my good looks and
charisma?  I hardly think that is the case.  I deeply respect the community
that contributes to and serves the mission of ARIN.... and who voted for
and against me.

Again, I think there is a good case for either future in the election
process, and I too think this debate is healthy and substantive and is
consistent with our bottom-up, grass roots governance model where
everyone's vote counts.

But, I have a question about what happens to those who are elected to fill
the remainder of another member's term?  Is that considered a term or can
they have two more thereafter?  If not the later, then I suspect that those
interested in being on the AC or BoT might not stand for election or be
unwilling to accept election in years when this is an issue.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Azinger, Marla <Marla.Azinger at ftr.com>wrote:

>  Having been on the AC for a 6 years I support a term limit for the AC.
> When on my 4th year I pursued creating a term limit.  At the time I was
> told this was an action the BOT would have to take.  No action was taken.
> Later I inquired on this being submitted as policy since the BOT did not
> take action.  I was told it would be thrown out since it's not a matter of
> policy.  Now with time and reviewing other public posts, I have more hope
> this will be taken seriously and something done.  I include this small
> history on my experience to show that the idea of term measures has been
> around for a  while but for some reason never gained traction.
> I believe a balance between familiarity, hitting a productive stride, burn
> out and mind melting needs to be balanced out with fresh able minds.  I
> also believe a solid 3 year break is needed for people to re-integrate as a
> non-AC person and regroup.  Leaving anyone on a committee for more than 6
> years opens the door to stagnation, burn out, and conformity of thinking.
> Remember, just because someone is not on the AC any longer does not mean AC
> folks can't get advice from them if desired.
> *I propose the following be used for AC:*
> *-Keep the 3 year terms in place  and add *
> *-a 6 year contiguous term limit *
> *-a 3 year ineligibility year period after a term ends be it 3year or
> 6years*
> *-After 3 year ineligibility is over a person my run for a position on the
> AC again.*
> I believe the BOT should also have some term measures and limits.
> However, I am asking someone who has served on the BOT in the past to
> create a thought out term plan and propose it.
> To keep this topic on track, I have purposely excluded the discussion of
> committee member candidate requirements.  This should be a separate topic
> that also needs discussion in order to better ensure community wide
> representation.
> Regards
> Marla Azinger
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