[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

Aaron aaron at wholesaleinternet.net
Thu Mar 20 16:30:08 EDT 2014


My issue with this proposal is that it might create an expectation that 
operators will start routing that space.  I just see a s**t storm when 
Customer A gets a /29 and no one can reach it.  I see it, in the long 
term, generating a lot of problems.

Aaron

On 3/20/2014 3:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 13:01 , Heather Schiller <heather.skanks at gmail.com 
> <mailto:heather.skanks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> As a shepherd for this proposal, I would like to solicit community 
>> feedback on the proposed text.
>>
>> Aside from the general support/against.. some things to consider:
>>
>> Do you concur with or have any comment on the problem statement?
>
> I do not concur with the problem statement.
>
>> If you support the problem statement, do you support removing section 
>> 8.2 as the correct path for remediating this conflict?  Do you have 
>> other suggestions for how to handle this?
>
> No.
>
>> If you are opposed, what concerns do you have about implementing this 
>> policy?
>
> I have previously stated my concerns. IMHO, this is yet another 
> attempt to bypass the needs-basis and seeks to solve a problem which 
> does not, in fact, exist.
>
> Owen
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Heather
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net 
>> <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 20 February 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
>>     "ARIN-prop-199 Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization
>>     Requirements" as a Draft Policy.
>>
>>     Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9 is below and can be found at:
>>     https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2014_9.html
>>
>>     You are encouraged to discuss the merits and your concerns of Draft
>>     Policy 2014-9 on the Public Policy Mailing List.
>>
>>     The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the
>>     conformance
>>     of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet Number
>>     Resource
>>     Policy as stated in the PDP. Specifically, these principles are:
>>
>>       * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>       * Technically Sound
>>       * Supported by the Community
>>
>>     The ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP) can be found at:
>>     https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>
>>     Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>     https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Communications and Member Services
>>     American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>>     ## * ##
>>
>>
>>     Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9
>>     Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements
>>
>>     Date: 4 March 2014
>>
>>     Problem Statement:
>>
>>     8.2 transfer policy has utilization requirements at the time of
>>     the review of the transfer request.
>>
>>     The RSA section 6 expressly forbids ARIN from de-registering
>>     blocks (in whole or in part) due to under-utilization or
>>     no-justification during transfer requests.
>>
>>     This is a direct conflict.
>>
>>     Return and aggregate are not done in collaboration; they are
>>     coerced by policy without the willing consent of the transfer
>>     parties.
>>
>>     We should remove all utilization references from 8.2 language to
>>     ensure the policy is compliant with the RSA.
>>
>>     Policy statement:
>>
>>     Remove from 8.2:
>>     "In the event that number resources of the combined organizations
>>     are no longer justified under ARIN policy at the time ARIN
>>     becomes aware of the transaction, through a transfer request or
>>     otherwise, ARIN will work with the resource holder(s) to return,
>>     aggregate, transfer, or reclaim resources as needed to restore
>>     compliance via the processes outlined in current ARIN policy."
>>
>>     Comments:
>>     a.Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>>     b.Anything else:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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