[arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

Paul WALL pauldotwall at gmail.com
Tue Mar 4 11:09:36 EST 2014


Customers.

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net> wrote:

> Money comes from somewhere, right?
> On Mar 4, 2014 10:56 PM, "Martin Hannigan" <hannigan at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannigan at gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
>
>> What does private equity and M&A have to do with longer or shorter prefix
>> value?
>>
>> There's a market for all lengths/sizes. Clearly, the Hilco data
>> demonstrates that. The "value" is higher for smaller (and larger to
>> some extent) prefixes because of the overhead and abundance of
>> unpredictable risk dealing with ARIN.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -M<
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Jeffrey Lyon
>> <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net');>>
>> wrote:
>> > Michel,
>> >
>> > I personally disagree that smaller assignments have market value. As
>> > the prefixes get shorter, the aftermarket appeal is likely much
>> > higher. (note: I do have some experience in this space in working with
>> > private equity on M&A proposals for our company).
>> >
>> > Thanks, Jeff
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Michel Py
>> > <michel at arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','michel at arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us');>>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Martin Hannigan wrote :
>> >>> It would be more credible if the actual block was
>> >>> published, but this is interesting regardless.
>> >>> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/
>> >>
>> >> About 6 weeks ago, I came up with the following:
>> >>
>> >> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>> >> ! Prefix !  #IPs ! Per IP !  Cost !
>> >> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>> >> !    /16 ! 65536 !    $10 ! $655K !
>> >> !    /18 ! 16384 !    $12 ! $196K !
>> >> !    /20 !  4096 !    $15 !  $61K !
>> >> !    /22 !  1024 !    $22 !  $22K !
>> >> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>> >>
>> >> I don't have any scientific pretentions about the validity of this
>> data,
>> >> YMMV, blah blah. What is advertised is not what is sold, at this point
>> >> in time though I don't think that it matters much to the debate if an
>> IP
>> >> is $7 per pop or $15 per pop.
>> >>
>> >> My files here: http://ipvii.com/
>> >>
>> >> Michel.
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP-ISSMP
>> > Fellow, Black Lotus Communications
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