[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12: Anti-hijack Policy

Fri Mar 28 12:53:43 EDT 2014

I read some more of that article I sent.  They specifically state that they
had LOAs from the RIRs to do these /12 advertisements.

Thanks!
-----Cathy

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:49 PM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:

> There is a paper here
> http://www.merit.edu/research/pdf/2013/ipv6_darknet_paper_r6098.pdf
>
> that says
> "We announced the prefixes: 2400::/12, 2600::/12, 2800::/12, 2c00::/12,
> 2a08::/13, and 2a04::/14 for over a three-month period. For a few days, we
> also announced RIPE's 2a00::/12"
>
> So I believe that the answer to your question is yes.
>
> -----Cathy
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM, David Huberman <
> David.Huberman at microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> David:
>>
>> That summary of the issue helps a lot, thank you!
>>
>> The question on my mind is:
>>         Did ARIN provide a written LOA to Merit to announce 2600::/12 ?
>>
>> David R Huberman
>> Microsoft Corporation
>> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Farmer [mailto:farmer at umn.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:43 AM
>> To: David Huberman; arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Cc: David Farmer
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12: Anti-hijack Policy
>>
>> I'm the primary shepherd for this Draft;
>>
>> The author is Heather Schiller, and I'm only saying that because I'm
>> going to reference you to her comments at the mic at the last NANOG.
>>
>> The research that prompted the proposal was presented at the last NANOG
>> in Atlanta and is at the following link;
>>
>> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/abstract?id=2289
>>
>> Heather's comments begins at about time stamp 17:10 or so on the video of
>> the NANOG presentation, and there are a couple other comments as well.
>>
>> Additionally, the reference for the published paper for the research in
>> question is;
>>
>> http://www.merit.edu/research/pdf/2013/ipv6_darknet_paper_r6098.pdf
>>
>> Also related is; ACSP SUGGESTION 2014.3: PUBLISH INFORMATION AND
>> SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR EXPERIMENTAL ALLOCATIONS
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2014-3.html
>>
>> [Shepherd hat - OFF]
>>
>> While I do not have a problem with this research and I don't think we
>> should restrict future such activities, I believe this is something the
>> community should discuss in detail and try to come to consensus on, one way
>> or the other.
>>
>> Also, while I disagree with the proposed policy text, what is proposed is
>> not without precedent.  As discussed in the NANOG presentation, RIPE
>> initially gave permission for a covering prefix for its whole /12 and then
>> it was modified to a covering prefixes of a /14 plus a /13, excluding the
>> space where most allocations were.  This significantly reduced the amount
>> of traffic for RIPE region and they were excluded from the analysis.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> On 3/26/14, 21:55 , David Huberman wrote:
>> > Hi PPML,
>> >
>> > Can someone show me where in the mailing list archives this policy was
>> actively discussed on PPML? I can't find it.
>> >
>> > Alternatively, can the policy author or someone who strongly supports
>> this policy please either post to the list or email me privately and clue
>> me in?  I issued and managed almost every experimental assignment for
>> almost 10 years from 2003 to 2013, and I am lost as to what this policy is
>> saying.  I would like to be educated so I can support, or not support, the
>> efforts that have been made here.
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> > /david
>> >
>> > David R Huberman
>> > Microsoft Corporation
>> > Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
>> > On Behalf Of ARIN
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:28 AM
>> > To: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> > Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12: Anti-hijack Policy
>> >
>> > On 20 March 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
>> > "ARIN-prop-202 Anti-hijack Policy" as a Draft Policy.
>> >
>> > Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12 is below and can be found at:
>> > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2014_12.html
>> >
>> > You are encouraged to discuss the merits and your concerns of Draft
>> Policy 2014-12 on the Public Policy Mailing List.
>> >
>> > The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance
>> of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet Number Resource
>> Policy as stated in the PDP. Specifically, these principles are:
>> >
>> >     * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>> >     * Technically Sound
>> >     * Supported by the Community
>> >
>> > The ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP) can be found at:
>> > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>> >
>> > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>> > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Communications and Member Services
>> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>> >
>> >
>> > ## * ##
>> >
>> >
>> > Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12
>> > Anti-hijack Policy
>> >
>> > Date: 25 March 2014
>> >
>> > Problem Statement:
>> >
>> > ARIN should not give research organizations permission to hijack
>> prefixes that have already been allocated. Research organizations
>> announcing lit aggregates may receive sensitive production traffic
>> belonging to live networks during periods of instability.
>> >
>> > Section 11.7 describes more than allocation size therefore updating the
>> section heading to something more accurate is appropriate.
>> >
>> > Policy statement:
>> >
>> > Modify the section 11.7 heading to be more accurate. Modify the first
>> sentence to prohibit overlapping assignments. Add text at the end to define
>> how research allocations should be designated and prohibit LOA's without
>> allocations.
>> >
>> > 11.7 Resource Allocation Guidelines
>> >
>> > The Numbering Resources requested come from the global Internet
>> Resource space, do not overlap previously assigned space, and are not from
>> private or other non-routable Internet Resource space. The allocation size
>> should be consistent with the existing ARIN minimum allocation sizes,
>> unless small allocations are intended to be explicitly part of the
>> experiment. If an organization requires more resource than stipulated by
>> the minimum allocation sizes in force at the time of their request, their
>> experimental documentation should have clearly described and justified why
>> this is required.
>> >
>> > All research allocations must be registered publicly in whois. Each
>> research allocation will be designated as a research allocation with a
>> comment indicating when the allocation will end. ARIN will not issue a
>> Letter of Authority (LOA) to route a research prefix unless the allocation
>> is properly registered in whois.
>> >
>> > Comments:
>> > a. Timetable for implementation: Immediate b. Anything else:
>>
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