[arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal

Tue Mar 25 13:39:18 EDT 2014

John

The ARIN website has all the data you refer to here.  It even has how many
votes each candidate got in each election.   You can also google "ARIN
election results <year>" to find a particular year.

----Cathy

On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com> wrote:

> Industry capture is actually something that could be prevented by term
> limits.
>
> One concern I have is:  Its easier to just click yes on the existing
> people, instead of looking at new candidates, new ideas, etc.
>
> Is there a place that shows total number of eligible voters and the actual
> number of votes received, trended over time.    Is the membership well
> represented by high turn out, or is the turn out "the same old people,
> voting for the same people""
>
> The President of the United States is limited to 8 years.
> Many States and City's have term limits on their elected representatives.
> Seems pretty democratic to me.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Paul Timmins <ptimmins at clearrate.com>wrote:
>
>>  I have concerns that forcing people out of a position where people
>> repeatedly vote for them is undemocratic, and can threaten the stability of
>> the regulatory regime by forcing people with experience out of a role when
>> their judgement may be perfectly okay and properly reflect community
>> consensus.
>>
>> It also can promote inappropriate industry influence by allowing large
>> players to target roles well in advance knowing a certain candidate will be
>> out of the election to cause undue influence on ARIN's policies.
>>
>> Additionally, the proposal is being floated by someone who has been on
>> the BOT for 6 years, and thus their judgement may be clouded because
>> they've been on the BOT too long.
>>
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>> *From:* arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] on
>> behalf of Radzwon, Tony [Tony.Radzwon at integratelecom.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:15 PM
>> *To:* Steven Ryerse; Azinger, Marla; arin-ppml at arin.net;
>> arin-discuss at arin.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal
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>>   I second that….
>>
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>> *From:* arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steven Ryerse
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:13 AM
>> *To:* Azinger, Marla; arin-ppml at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal
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>>
>> I would support this.
>>
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>> *From:* arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net<arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Azinger, Marla
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:06 PM
>> *To:* arin-ppml at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net
>> *Subject:* [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> Having been on the AC for a 6 years I support a term limit for the AC.
>>
>>
>>
>> When on my 4th year I pursued creating a term limit.  At the time I was
>> told this was an action the BOT would have to take.  No action was taken.
>> Later I inquired on this being submitted as policy since the BOT did not
>> take action.  I was told it would be thrown out since it’s not a matter of
>> policy.  Now with time and reviewing other public posts, I have more hope
>> this will be taken seriously and something done.  I include this small
>> history on my experience to show that the idea of term measures has been
>> around for a  while but for some reason never gained traction.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe a balance between familiarity, hitting a productive stride,
>> burn out and mind melting needs to be balanced out with fresh able minds.
>> I also believe a solid 3 year break is needed for people to re-integrate as
>> a non-AC person and regroup.  Leaving anyone on a committee for more than 6
>> years opens the door to stagnation, burn out, and conformity of thinking.
>> Remember, just because someone is not on the AC any longer does not mean AC
>> folks can’t get advice from them if desired.
>>
>>
>>
>> *I propose the following be used for AC:*
>>
>> *-Keep the 3 year terms in place  and add *
>>
>> *-a 6 year contiguous term limit *
>>
>> *-a 3 year ineligibility year period after a term ends be it 3year or
>> 6years*
>>
>> *-After 3 year ineligibility is over a person my run for a position on
>> the AC again.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe the BOT should also have some term measures and limits.
>> However, I am asking someone who has served on the BOT in the past to
>> create a thought out term plan and propose it.
>>
>>
>>
>> To keep this topic on track, I have purposely excluded the discussion of
>> committee member candidate requirements.  This should be a separate topic
>> that also needs discussion in order to better ensure community wide
>> representation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Marla Azinger
>>
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