[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

[Martin Hannigan]

We can work that out in operator groups. ARIN is a steward of numbers,
not a regulator of operators and their routing policies.

Not adopting this will contribute another to the pile of existing
reasons as to why the registry is hugely inaccurate.

Best,

-M<



On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Aaron <aaron at wholesaleinternet.net> wrote:
> My issue with this proposal is that it might create an expectation that
> operators will start routing that space.  I just see a s**t storm when
> Customer A gets a /29 and no one can reach it.  I see it, in the long term,
> generating a lot of problems.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On 3/20/2014 3:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 13:01 , Heather Schiller <heather.skanks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As a shepherd for this proposal, I would like to solicit community feedback
> on the proposed text.
>
> Aside from the general support/against.. some things to consider:
>
> Do you concur with or have any comment on the problem statement?
>
>
> I do not concur with the problem statement.
>
> If you support the problem statement, do you support removing section 8.2 as
> the correct path for remediating this conflict?  Do you have other
> suggestions for how to handle this?
>
>
> No.
>
> If you are opposed, what concerns do you have about implementing this
> policy?
>
>
> I have previously stated my concerns. IMHO, this is yet another attempt to
> bypass the needs-basis and seeks to solve a problem which does not, in fact,
> exist.
>
> Owen
>
>
> Thanks,
> --Heather
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 20 February 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
>> "ARIN-prop-199 Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization
>> Requirements" as a Draft Policy.
>>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9 is below and can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2014_9.html
>>
>> You are encouraged to discuss the merits and your concerns of Draft
>> Policy 2014-9 on the Public Policy Mailing List.
>>
>> The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance
>> of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet Number Resource
>> Policy as stated in the PDP. Specifically, these principles are:
>>
>>   * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>   * Technically Sound
>>   * Supported by the Community
>>
>> The ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP) can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Communications and Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>> ## * ##
>>
>>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9
>> Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements
>>
>> Date: 4 March 2014
>>
>> Problem Statement:
>>
>> 8.2 transfer policy has utilization requirements at the time of the review
>> of the transfer request.
>>
>> The RSA section 6 expressly forbids ARIN from de-registering blocks (in
>> whole or in part) due to under-utilization or no-justification during
>> transfer requests.
>>
>> This is a direct conflict.
>>
>> Return and aggregate are not done in collaboration; they are coerced by
>> policy without the willing consent of the transfer parties.
>>
>> We should remove all utilization references from 8.2 language to ensure
>> the policy is compliant with the RSA.
>>
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> Remove from 8.2:
>> "In the event that number resources of the combined organizations are no
>> longer justified under ARIN policy at the time ARIN becomes aware of the
>> transaction, through a transfer request or otherwise, ARIN will work with
>> the resource holder(s) to return, aggregate, transfer, or reclaim resources
>> as needed to restore compliance via the processes outlined in current ARIN
>> policy."
>>
>> Comments:
>> a.Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>> b.Anything else:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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