[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent Allocations for New Multiple Discrete Networks - Revised

[Martin Hannigan]

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
> On 3/5/2014 9:11 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>> You get AC airline status upgrade karma points if you can tell me that this is meaningless then.
>>
>> From immediate need text :
>>
>> "These cases are exceptional."
>
> I'd agree the immediate need text is old and probably doesn't make as
> much sense as it used to

[ ...]


>> That doesn't sound easier. And is not current "undocumented" practice.
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf
>
> Slide 7, Is the current "undocumented new site MDN practice" which says
> ARIN uses the immediate need text.
>

That doesn't mean it's easier.



>> And end users are still excluded.
>
> I'll agree, but MDN was never designed for end-users,

[ ... ]

It does not preclude them.


>I'm not opposed to
> bringing end-users and ISPs closer together in policy, but again we're
> trying to fix a specific issue here with MDN.
>

What you and your colleagues have ultimately done is put lipstick on a pig.

Best,

-M<