[arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

[Jeffrey Lyon]

Michel,

>From your explanation, we do not disagree at all :). It is easy to
obtain small allocations from ARIN (for now) but quite difficult to
find contiguous space in the much shorter prefixes. These are the ones
that would have market value. I've requested several /21's and /22's
from ARIN. This observation, of course, would not hold true for APNIC
or RIPE.

Thanks, Jeff

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Michel Py
<michel at arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
>> Jeffrey Lyon wrote :
>> I personally disagree that smaller assignments have market value.
>
> We don't disagree much. Put it in context: it was a large scale
> production talk where a /20 is a toy, and the point I was trying to make
> then is that there is not much of a speculation market.
>
> For that audience who turns out to have deep pockets, it would indeed
> make sense to pay MORE per IP to have a short, contiguous prefix rather
> than a boatload of scattered /24s from all over the swamp.
>
> My personal view is that it's still a market where cold heads prevails
> and buyers are coming to it with a specific need, purpose or project.
> The Microsoft / Nortel deal has set the baseline price at $10 a pop, and
> more or less market fluctuations and other factors this is what we are
> still seeing.
>
> That being said, it's a new market, with a very large FUD potential.
> Some people out there are getting excited about the idea of buying a
> /16, carving it up into /24s to resell / lease, and making a buck out of
> it. These wheeler-dealers don't understand the value of a large
> allocation, they think retail where one buys bulk and packages it small.
> I don't see that happening, but never say never.
>
> Michel.
>
>
>>> Michel Py wrote :
>>> About 6 weeks ago, I came up with the following:
>>>
>>> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>>> ! Prefix !  #IPs ! Per IP !  Cost !
>>> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>>> !    /16 ! 65536 !    $10 ! $655K !
>>> !    /18 ! 16384 !    $12 ! $196K !
>>> !    /20 !  4096 !    $15 !  $61K !
>>> !    /22 !  1024 !    $22 !  $22K !
>>> +--------+-------+--------+-------+
>>> My files here: http://ipvii.com/



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