[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent Allocations for New Multiple Discrete Networks - Revised

[Jeffrey Lyon]

I am opposed to the rewording as the new discrete site is in itself
demonstration of need. There is a technical requirement to provide at
least a /24 of space at any discrete site.

Thanks, Jeff

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:
> Does anyone else have comments about this proposal?  The text has been
> changed slightly based on feedback from the PPC at NANOG.  The change was
>
> from
>
> Upon verification that the organization has already obtained
> connectivity at its new discrete network site
>
> to
>
>
> Upon verification that the organization has demonstrated need at its new
> discrete network site
>
> Please send your comments on this change and on the proposal.
>
> Thanks!
> -----Cathy
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>>
>> I support this new version of the policy.  I believe the new text
>> successfully deals with the issues raised and discussed at the Atlanta
>> nanog PPC.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 3/4/2014 12:13 PM, ARIN wrote:
>> > ## * ##
>> >
>> >
>> > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8
>> > Subsequent Allocations for New Multiple Discrete Networks
>> >
>> > Date: 4 March 2014
>> >
>> > AC's assessment of conformance with the Principles of Internet Number
>> > Resource Policy:
>> >
>> > "Subsequent Allocations for Additional Discrete Network Sites This
>> > policy enables fair and impartial number resource administration by
>> > documenting the current practice regarding allocations for additional
>> > discrete network sites. The ARIN staff has been following a procedure
>> > that has not been documented until now. By documenting this process
>> > the community has clear understanding of how to get address space for
>> > additional network sites.
>> >
>> > This is a technically sound proposal that has been in practice for
>> > some time. It had just not been documented.
>> >
>> > This proposal has received several notes of support on the PPML and to
>> > date has received no negative feedback."
>> >
>> > Policy Statement:
>> >
>> > IPv4:
>> >
>> > Add the following statement to section 4.5.4.
>> >
>> > Upon verification that the organization has demonstrated need at its new
>> > discrete network site, the new networks shall be allocated the minimum
>> > allocation size under section 4.2.1.5 unless the organization can
>> > demonstrate additional need using the immediate need criteria (4.2.1.6).
>> >
>> > IPv6:
>> >
>> > Add an additional reference to section 6.11.5.b such that it
>> > references both the initial allocation and subsequent allocation
>> > sections of the IPv6 LIR policy.
>> >
>> > "Each network will be judged against the existing utilization criteria
>> > specified in 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 as if it were a separate organization..."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Comments:
>> >
>> > a. Timetable for implementation: immediate
>> >
>> > b. This policy is being proposed based upon the Policy Implementation
>> > & Experience Report from ARIN 32.
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > c: Older versions of the MDN policy did contain new network criteria.
>> > This criteria appears to have been dropped during subsequent rewrites
>> > of the MDN policy. "The organization must not allocate a CIDR block
>> > larger than the current minimum assignment size of the RIR (currently
>> > /20 for ARIN) to a new network."
>> > (https://www.arin.net/policy/archive/nrpm_20041015.pdf)
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Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP-ISSMP
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