Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Thu Jun 26 16:25:38 EDT 2014


Notwithstanding my support for at least partially removing needs
testing, addresses obtained via M&A should certainly be
sold/transferred or returned.

Thanks, Jeff

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>> On 6/2/2014 10:34 AM, Heather Schiller wrote:
>> > At the PPM in April, there was support for leaving this paragraph in
>> > the NRPM, but removing the words 'aggregate' and 'return', resulting
>> > in the text below.   The AC encourages feedback on this proposed change.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > --Heather
>> >
>> >
>> > Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9
>> > Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements
>> >
>> > Remove the words "aggregate" and "reclaim" from 8.2, so it reads:
>> >
>> > "In the event that number resources of the combined organizations are
>> > no longer justified under ARIN policy at the time ARIN becomes aware
>> > of the transaction, through a transfer request or otherwise, ARIN will
>> > work with the resource holder(s) to return or transfer resources as
>> > needed to restore compliance via the processes outlined in current
>> > ARIN policy."
>> >
>> This new text removes the threat of reclamation from the policy manual
>> as the current RSA (section 6) prohibits ARIN from reclaiming addresses
>> for lack of use, but this rewrite does not make it clear that an
>> organization can retain their addresses for future use.  This change
>> makes it clear that resources or parts of resources will not become
>> orphaned blocks due to a merger or acquisition.  I believe this change
>> would promote registry accuracy as it should allow organizations to
>> update all their records to show the new holder and user of the
>> resources regardless of utilization.
>> May I suggest the following rewrite to clarify that an organization can
>> retain their addresses through a transfer.
> While that was a goal of the original proposal (which would've eliminated
> this section entirely) I did not get the sense that the community supported
> going that far.  Rather, the consensus seemed to be that if an organization
> acquires addresses they don't currently need via M&A transfer, they should
> work in good faith to find a buyer for them and transfer them under 8.3 or
> 8.4.  If they are unwilling to do so, they will remain in violation of this
> policy language and be unable to acquire any additional addresses, but ARIN
> will not attempt to reclaim the addresses.
>> ...ARIN will notify the resource holder(s) that they may return or
>> transfer resources as needed to restore compliance via the processes
>> outlined in current ARIN policy or retain their resources for future use
>> or later transfer/return.
> If there is community support for allowing organizations to retain unneeded
> resources obtained through M&A for future use, please speak up.  I didn't
> hear much support for that position expressed at the meeting.
> -Scott
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Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP-ISSMP
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