[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-14: Removing Needs Test fromSmall IPv4 Transfers

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Sun Jun 22 22:13:20 EDT 2014


I just wanted to jump in and signal my support for removing needs testing
completely, ala RIPE.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled argument :)

Thanks, Jeff
On Jun 22, 2014 9:24 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> On Jun 22, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>
> wrote:
> > Milton's conclusion in the research for his article:
> >
> >
> http://www.internetgovernance.org/2014/06/20/baby-steps-and-big-differences-in-address-transfer-market/
> >
> > indicates that the significant majority of the transfers as a result of
> the removal of needs testing in Policy of other RIRs is in the smallest
> block sizes in the /19-/22 range.  It seems obvious that smaller
> Organizations with smaller requirements are the ones who have been
> prevented via the Needs Policies of the RIRs of getting the resources they
> require.  Thus the large increase in transfers in the /19-/22 range.  I'm
> guessing that the pent-up need will at some point be alleviated and the
> allocation rate will then level off.
> >
> Post hoc ergo propter hoc
> In fact, the vast majority of address blocks issued from the free pools
> are in the /19-/22 range and so the vast majority of needs, requests, etc.
> also fall into that range. The fact that the distribution both with and
> without needs basis seems to fall along roughly the same lines in terms of
> block size distribution seems to me to say that elimination of needs basis
> testing has not shown to have any meaningful effect, in fact.
> > Milton's research is empirical evidence that the Draft Policy
> ARIN-2014-14 is right on target to alleviate this inequity.
> I really don’t see it as such.
> Owen
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