[arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Thu Jun 12 14:59:15 EDT 2014

I would echo Mike’s earlier comment that just because they don’t adhere to a policy of ARINs does not in itself make them Bad.  If a Legacy holder decides to sell his IP block to another party as an example that does not somehow make them bad.  By your definition it may make them an Actor but not necessarily a Bad Actor.  My two cents.

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Owen DeLong
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

On Jun 12, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com<mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:

Changing the definition of bad actors can, indeed, make a bunch of bad actors now fit the reformed definition of “good companies”, but similarly, repealing laws against bank robbers would then make bank robbers no longer defined as criminals.

Owen -

Let's save use of the term "criminal" for those actually violating public laws; the phrase
"bad actors" applies quite well to those who violate community expectations, whether
that be address policy, handling unsolicited bulk emailers,  route deaggregators, etc.


John Curran
President and CEO

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