[arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Wed Jun 11 15:50:40 EDT 2014

It already is voluntary.  Nobody is stopping anyone from returning unused resources.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Steven Ryerse
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:16 PM
> To: Gary Buhrmaster
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers
> The existence of Legacy holders makes that a murky legal question and thus
> is probably not feasible.  However, I would support attempting something
> like that if it was voluntary. We might be surprised by the amount of
> cooperation if it was voluntary and some sort of amnesty was offered.
> Steven Ryerse
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Buhrmaster [mailto:gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:47 PM
> To: Steven Ryerse
> Cc: McTim; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-
> networks.com> wrote:
> > Even one transfer that doesn't update the database is one too many
> Playing devils advocate then, I take it you are in favor of moving to rescind
> (and then re-issue) any IP Numbers for which the whois validation has not
> been confirmed (by the yearly POC validation emails)?  And perhaps with an
> officer attestation saying that the numbers of fully utilized per RSA?
> Historically, the ARIN community has never been willing to take that step
> (and, I would likely not support it), but perhaps the tides have changed, and
> community now believes that whois accuracy is the most important thing.
> I will look forward to your policy proposal to put teeth into whois validation.
> Gary
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