[arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Fri Jun 6 01:28:34 EDT 2014

Owen, as best as I can tell you have served this community honorably during your years of service.  I would not support removing you or any other (who discloses publicly like you do) because you earn at least part of your income consulting with organizations helping them acquire IP resources thru the complexities of existing ARIN policies.

The only question I would ask is, would you support a proposal from a member of this community to make the acquisition of IP resources much simpler if it significantly cut into your income?  Would every member who serves do so?  It's an age old question that is always difficult to answer.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 12:05 AM
To: Milton L Mueller
Cc: Steven Ryerse; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

On Jun 5, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

> Owen,
>> Given the number of sole-proprietors with very small budgets that I 
>> have obtained IP allocations for over the past several years, I think 
>> this is an
> Are you doing this on a consulting basis? I am not accusing you of anything here, just think some additional clarity and perhaps COI disclosure might be appropriate here. 

Yes, I have done this on a consulting basis for a very long time. I have repeatedly disclosed that I do so to the AC on a regular basis.

I have checked with both John Curran and Steve Ryan and confirmed that no general COI exists.

Each time a policy has come up which might benefit one or more of my clients, I have disclosed this fact and recused myself from the voting if the policy might have any impact on an active client’s current or pending request that I was aware of.

I am also the person responsible for Hurricane Electric’s RIR relations and act as the DMR for some of my clients in the ARIN and APNIC elections.
I do the number resource applications for Hurricane Electric and act as a senior counselor to others at Hurricane Electric who do resource requests on behalf of our customers.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify this. I do not believe a COI exists, but if one comes to light, I will certainly disclose it and take appropriate action to the best of my ability.


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