[arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Aaron aaron at wholesaleinternet.net
Tue Jun 3 15:43:57 EDT 2014

Maybe the conversation should be: "What actions does the community wish 
to take when Microsoft tries to scam the system?"

On 6/3/2014 2:31 PM, David Huberman wrote:
> We had a discussion today at NANOG in the ARIN PPC about needs-basis 
> in 8.3 transfers.
> I'd like to state the following, and then let's see where the 
> discussion takes us:
> My team runs an AS. And yep, we're a pretty big company.  We rely on 
> IPv4 today for most of our numbering, and will continue to do so for 
> the next couple of years.[1] In the coming year, when we can't get 
> space from ARIN or other RIRs, we have to turn to the market for our 
> IP address needs.   We may choose to buy more than a 2 year supply, 
> because it may make business sense for us to do so.   ARIN policy, 
> however, only allows us to take the IP addresses we buy and transfer 
> the portion which represents a 2 year need. The rest will remain in 
> the name of whoever sold the IP addresses to us.
> Why is this result good for the operator community?  Wouldn't it be 
> better if ARIN rules allowed us to transfer into our name all the IP 
> addresses which we now own?
> Regards,
> /david
> [1] We're working on increasing IPv6 presence in our network and our 
> products, but large corporations move slowly ;)
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Aaron Wendel
Chief Technical Officer
Wholesale Internet, Inc. (AS 32097)

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