[arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

[Owen DeLong]

No harm, no foul, but I appreciate and accept your apology. I know we’re both trying to do what we think is right for the community.

Owen

On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:42 PM, David Huberman <David.Huberman at microsoft.com> wrote:

> And I'd like to follow-up my own post with a "my fault"/"I'm sorry" for directly calling out Owen in my email.   Owen is doing what so many others aren't: he's actively participating.  He and I are on opposite sides here, so it sometimes feel antagonistic when it isn't.  Sorry, Owen, for calling you out by name.  That was wrong of me.
> 
> David R Huberman
> Microsoft Corporation
> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers
> 
> We're going to be a cross-roads very soon.  ARIN is going to exhaust, and network operators will be unable to obtain additional IPv4 address blocks from ARIN.  At that point, the most obvious solution for IPv4 needs will be the market.  Proper stewardship of the ARIN function demands that ARIN policy adjust to what happens in the market.  It's not the other way around, if only because that's not how markets work.
> 
> The ARIN CEO, ARIN's General Counsel, the Harvard economist ARIN pays, professors who study markets, brokers who operate in the market, and buyers and sellers who buy and sell in the market have all told the ARIN community the same story for around 5 years now: the market is going to act as a market, and ARIN policy needs to be ready for it; ARIN policy needs to make sense with the dynamics of the market.
> 
> It's hard to know how to argue with operators like Owen and the Google folks who all say the opposite; that ARIN policy should stick to the same ideals as 1995 (important ideals for a very long time!) and not adjust.  I fear the results of this kind of ostracism :(
> 
> David R Huberman
> Microsoft Corporation
> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
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