[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-17: Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggregate - revised

Jason Schiller jschiller at google.com
Thu Jul 17 15:05:23 EDT 2014


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:

| Maybe it is time to metaphorically sweep those chairs into the sea so we
can move on.

You mean like give exactly one /24 to each person who posts to this thread
until there are none left?

I think the last time that was proposed a lot of people posted to the
thread but most said "I oppose, but if this does pass, consider me in line
for a /24".  Maybe the community feels different now?

Personally, I think it is increasingly more important to provide
stewardship and ensure IP addresses go to those that need it as the
resource becomes more scarce and more costly.

__Jason

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:

>
>  I think it will have exactly the opposite effect, actually. I think it
>> lowers the barrier for smaller entities and new entrants while keeping
>> roughly the same effective requirements for larger incumbents.
>>
>
> Maybe if you can show how the barriers are reduced for smaller entities
> and new entrants, vs how they will be affected if the larger entities
> are enabled to get the remaining space faster?
>
>
>  I think we need another idea to come up..
>>>
>>
>> Such as?
>>
>
> Hopefully the question will be answered, and the quicker we move on,
> maybe the quicker that will be answered.
>
>
>
> How about support for removing the needs test for small transfers a la
> 2014-14?
> It seems to benefit those whose needs are small, but who are having
> difficulties with justification due to niggling IPv4 policy issues like
> minimum sizes and utilization requirements.
> Others have noted we are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic with
> these IPv4 policy issues.
> Maybe it is time to metaphorically sweep those chairs into the sea so we
> can move on.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>
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