[arin-ppml] LAST CALL: Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent Allocations for New Multiple Discrete Networks

Matthew Petach mpetach at netflight.com
Tue Jul 1 16:33:50 EDT 2014


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Scott,
>
> Asking me to do the work the AC is supposed to do is like asking a nun to
> certify their virginity.
>

In the interests of supporting our community, I volunteer to ...

oh, wait.  Wrong question.

I mean "I support this proposal".

Matt


>
> I made my point and I feel zero need to defend what is completely obvious
> and on the record.
>
> As I explained to our "CEO and President", feel free to demonstrate
> otherwise.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2014, at 19:38, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> I felt the objections raised at previous meetings were addressed, not
> ignored. Can you clarify how you feel that this policy would make it harder
> for a recipient to qualify to receive space via transfer? The intent here
> is to allow organizations to create new discrete networks and qualify for
> space from them. If you think it will do the opposite, it's worth detailing
> how and why.
>
> It's also worth noting that, by documenting the basic requirements for
> such networks, it also reduces ARIN staff's discretion and provides
> additional policy certainty.
>
> Scott
>
> On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Martin  Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Objection, with the majority of the community from the previous ARIN
> meeting, recent NANOG PPC and other comments and fora discussion.
>
> But don't let that stop the ARIN AC from moving it forward in its
> obsession with controlling v4 markets.
>
> Best,
>
> -M<
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2014, at 17:34, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Does anyone have comments on this recommended draft policy?
>
> Thanks!
> ----Cathy
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:16 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>
>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 19 June 2014 and decided to
>> send the following to last call:
>>
>>   Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent Allocations for New
>> Multiple Discrete Networks
>>
>> Feedback is encouraged during the last call period. All comments should
>> be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. This last call will
>> expire on 8 July 2014. After last call the AC will conduct their
>> last call review.
>>
>> The draft policy text is below and available at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/
>>
>> The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Communications and Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>> ## * ##
>>
>>
>> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8
>> Subsequent Allocations for New Multiple Discrete Networks
>>
>> Date: 16 May 2014
>>
>> AC's assessment of conformance with the Principles of Internet Number
>> Resource Policy:
>>
>> This proposal enables fair and impartial number resource administration
>> by documenting how to get a new block for a new discrete network. Previous
>> versions of the policy did have this information and over time it has been
>> removed.
>>
>> This proposal is technically sound. There is a need for discrete networks
>> and an organization should have a policy that would allow it to create a
>> new discrete network.
>>
>> This proposal is supported by the community. There has been some concern
>> about the criterial that will be used and this version has been updated
>> with the current thinking on the criteria.
>>
>> Policy Statement:
>>
>> IPv4:
>> Add the following statement to section 4.5.4.
>> Upon verification that the organization has shown evidence of deployment
>> of the new discrete network site, the new network(s) shall be allocated the
>> minimum allocation size under section 4.2.1.5 unless the organization can
>> demonstrate additional need using the immediate need criteria (4.2.1.6).
>>
>> IPv6:
>> Add an additional reference to section 6.11.5.b such that it references
>> both the initial allocation and subsequent allocation sections of the IPv6
>> LIR policy.
>> "Each network will be judged against the existing utilization criteria
>> specified in 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 as if it were a separate organization..."
>>
>> Comments:
>> a. Timetable for implementation: immediate
>> b. This policy is being proposed based upon the Policy Implementation &
>> Experience Report from ARIN 32.
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/
>> ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf
>> c: Older versions of the MDN policy did contain new network criteria.
>> This criteria appears to have been dropped during subsequent rewrites of
>> the MDN policy. "The organization must not allocate a CIDR block larger
>> than the current minimum assignment size of the RIR (currently /20 for
>> ARIN) to a new network." (https://www.arin.net/policy/
>> archive/nrpm_20041015.pdf)
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