[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-2: Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Thu Jan 30 07:11:27 EST 2014

Hi Bill,

Thanks for your input on this issue.  We saw the same issue when adding the
clause, but did so anyway to get insight from the community.  Our reasoning
was to get feedback on (at least) two issues....
...first, the issue of organizational structure.  What if an organization
wishes to transfer to an 'existing' subsidiary....is that the same
organization?  Is it possible to allow subsidiary transfer, but bound it
with a time constraint....'existing for the past XX months or years?
...and, is this issue 'really' of concern given the late date relative to
ARIN free-pool run out?

Thanks again,

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:26 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> > On 24 January 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-194
> > Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language" as a Draft Policy.
> >
> > Modify 8.4:
> > Source entities within the ARIN region must not have received a transfer,
> > allocation, or assignment of IPv4 number resources from ARIN for the 12
> > months prior to the approval of a transfer request. This restriction does
> > not include M&A transfers. Restrictions related to recent receipt of
> blocks
> > shall not apply to inter-RIR transfers within the same organization and
> its
> > subsidiaries.
> Howdy.
> "and its subsidiaries" defeats the anti-flipping provision. Creating
> and then selling a "subsidiary" has a trivial cost. Restrict it to
> "same organization" and you won't have harmed things any more than
> having inter-rir transfers at all harms things.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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