[arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders
jcurran at arin.net
Mon Feb 17 06:48:38 EST 2014
On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:39 AM, David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org> wrote:
> The whole point of contention here is in fact that the party listed does _not_ have control of the address space -- it was transferred. The intent of the registration database is to help troubleshoot network problems including abuse. By not recording a transfer, ARIN is intentionally making it hard if not impossible to track down the actual operator of the address space, thereby failing the basic test of providing a registration database.
The operational impact is actually the consequence of the service
provider who makes use of address space which is assigned to another;
it's not materially different than attempts at IP block hijacking
that we see from time to time.
If the registry is to be operated without any policy on transfers,
that is indeed possible, but again that should be decided by the
community. Note - this is not unique to ARIN; LACNIC applies policies
to IPv4 transfers, APNIC applies policies to transfers (e.g. requiring
the recipient to be an APNIC member)... Are you suggesting that the
very existence of registry policies are contrary to being an RIR, in
that they may result in an operator using space not registered and
thus hinder operations?
If this had only been made clear by the authors of RFC 2050, we could
have saved more than a decade of policy working group meetings in every
region... Can you explain why you now believe that RIRs are not entitled
to operate their registries in accordance with community-developed policy?
Why doesn't the APNIC community have the right to require a recipient
to be an APNIC member, or the LACNIC community the right to set a /24
minimum block size on recipients? In any of these cases, a rejection
of a transfer request results in the same scenario you describe above;
suggesting that all of the RIRs are failing your new "basic test" of
providing a registration database.
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