[arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Feb 13 16:58:58 EST 2014

On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:

> On 2/12/14, 5:43 PM, David Conrad wrote:
>> And by the way, continuing to try to associate transfers between mutually agreeable parties as theft or illegal activity isn't really helping the conversation.
> +1. Especially when the transfers involve addresses for which no RSA has been signed. Either ARIN should stop maintaining a registry of pre-ARIN-assigned no-RSA-associated addresses altogether, or ensure that such a registry is relatively accurate.

Fair enough… Would you consider the sale of alcohol to a minor a more apt metaphor for the attempt to transfer resources registered to one party to another party which is ineligible to receive them under policy?

The registry is accurate. ARIN policy does apply to legacy resources, 

> I understand that ARIN *can* decide to pretend that it somehow prevents the transfers from happening by refusing to record changes in "ownership" that are done outside of policy (and certainly has the right to refuse to record the changes, what with there being no agreement with the parties and all), but I don't see how that furthers the goal of maintaining an accurate registry, which I presume is why ARIN includes legacy addresses in its registry at all.

I would argue that framing ARIN refusing to record transfers attempted in circumvention of policy as “pretending that it can prevent them” as being equally counterproductive to the theft analogies.


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