[arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

David Conrad drc at virtualized.org
Wed Feb 12 20:43:00 EST 2014


John,

On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:13 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> "The importance of maintaining accurate records in the ARIN database is recognized as ARIN's principal task."
> Alas, your very clear formulation won't be very informative, 
> since the registry is accurate even after a denied transfer

You appear to be assuming that if ARIN denies the transfer, the transfer doesn't occur.

Do you really believe that?

> Hence, my suggestion to make such a survey more specific with
> respect to prioritization of needs-based transfers vs operational 
> usefulness of registry data.


Again, for me, the issue isn't about needs-based transfer per se, it's more general than that.  Needs-based constraints on transfer in the context of legacy addresses is a post facto imposition of policy on resource holders who have no contractual obligation to abide by (or even knowledge of) that policy. Failure to accurately record a transfer between mutually agreeable parties does not necessarily result in that transfer not taking place but it does result in the database being degraded if the transfer does occur.  To me, this is a failure in the primary activity of an Internet registry. If anyone in ARIN community believes that as the IPv4 free pool is exhausted that ARIN (the organization) will be able to stand in the way of the organizations most interested in obtaining address space and the folks that want to sell it to them, you have a different view of desperation than I do.

Perhaps the right answer would be if ARIN renames itself to the American Policy Forum for Internet Numbers and the registry function (which, as I understand it takes a fraction of ARIN's budget) gets spun off into its own non-profit (501c(3) instead of c(6)) organization. 

And by the way, continuing to try to associate transfers between mutually agreeable parties as theft or illegal activity isn't really helping the conversation. 

Regards,
-drc

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