[arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Mon Feb 10 14:13:23 EST 2014


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Steven Ryerse
<SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>wrote:

>  My Opinion:  I think their policy acknowledges reality and embraces it!
> Their policy obviously PROMOTES the Internet which is what the RIRs were
> created to do in the first place.  It is time for the ARIN community to do
> something similar, and it is time for removing all of the needs testing to
> qualify for ARIN resources - as needs testing does the exact OPPOSITE of
> PROMOTING the Internet.
>

Hi Steve,

I don't follow you here. Maybe you can explain how giving Internet
addresses to people who need them to connect to the Internet is the
opposite of promoting the Internet?

Also, the RIRs, and ARIN in particular, were not created to "promote the
Internet" necessarily (although I do find that a laudable cause) - their
primary purpose is to _support the Internet_ by acting as stewards of the
Internet numbers in their region (something that should be remembered in
any argument about needs testing). ;-)

https://www.arin.net/announcements/2012/20121012_mission.html : "ARIN, a
nonprofit member-based organization, supports the operation of the Internet
through the management of Internet number resources throughout its service
region; coordinates the development of policies by the community for the
management of Internet Protocol number resources; and advances the Internet
through informational outreach."

Cheers,
~Chris


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> *From:* arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Martin Hannigan
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:45 PM
> *To:* Owen DeLong
> *Cc:* arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy
> InternetResource Holders
>
>
>
> What's next? RIR competition? :-)
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>  I'm sure it insures something. I'm not sure an accurate registry is what
> it insures.
>
>
>
> Owen
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2014, at 18:07 , Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
> RIPE-605 is now policy in the RIPE region.
>
> 1. Provides registry services to legacy holders without contractual
> requirement
>
> 2. Excludes legacy holders from RIPE policy purview, past-present-future
>
> 3. Can revert a legacy block under contract back to a non-contract state
>
> 4. Reversion concept = "real property"
>
> This is certainly one way to insure an accurate registry.
>
> See RIPE-605 here: http://bit.ly/MzbmZ1
>
> Best,
>
> -M<
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