[arin-ppml] 2014-14, was Internet Fairness
andrew.dul at quark.net
Fri Dec 26 20:03:39 EST 2014
On 12/26/2014 4:33 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 3:01 PM, John Springer <springer at inlandnet.com
> <mailto:springer at inlandnet.com>> wrote:
> Hi John,
> Thank you for the clear statement of opposition. Please allow me
> to address the points you offer inline.
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014, John Santos wrote:
> Oppose 2014-14
> 1) /16 is not "small"
> This has actually been mentioned before, by several commentators.
> The problem with "big" and "not "small"" is that they require
> reference to a datum, which WRT to 2014-14 has not been provided.
> Owen Delong provided a fair attempt to come to grips with what big
> or small actually mean as percentages of the number and size of
> transfers that have occured since the STLS policy was adopted in
> 2009, here:
> Hi John,
> I think it might help if we use the terms
> XX-Small, X-Small, Small, etc. as defined
> by ARIN themselves at
> This might help eliminate confusion, and allow
> for some flexibility going forward; if we instead
> of hard-coding a specific size, instead tie it to
> the fee schedule, and say "only entities that
> currently fall into the "Small" and below category
> of the ARIN fee schedule (ie cumulative /18 or
> less of total IPv4 holdings as of the 2013 fee
> schedule) may obtain a single transfer allocation
> of size not to exceed the largest allowed for an
> XX-Small organization (which, as of the 2013
> fee schedule would mean a /22 or smaller)."
> Or perhaps keep it supremely simple:
> "Any org-ID may obtain one transfer allocation
> of size not to exceed the largest allocation
> within the XX-Small category (currently a /22,
> as of the 2013 fee schedule) per year without
> requiring needs justification."
> That way, as our concept of ISP size shifts
> and changes over time, so too does the
> maximum needs-free allocation size.
I'm not in favor of linking the fee categories to number policy. The
fees and its categories are under the control of the board; number
policy is under control of the Internet community via the PDP. I
believe the board's actions, to adjust fees, should not cause changes
with number policy.
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