[arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Sun Dec 21 21:01:06 EST 2014

Everyone in this Community has a self-serving agenda.  That is how it should be.  I won't apologize for mine and I won't ask you to apologize for yours.  

Steven L Ryerse
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-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 6:24 PM
To: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

On 12/21/14 1:57 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> Well Rob, we would have both of our name servers on topologically distinct networks but ARIN denied our small IPv4 allocation request!  You proved my point that small Orgs have it tougher than larger ones getting resources.

No, small orgs do not have it tougher. An inability to grok the NRPM is maybe a personal difficulty, but not a barrier one that warrants policy change. I say this as someone who just got ARIN resources to start up an IX this September and other resources previously like a /22 for another org back when I had to have two /24's from upstreams (and an additional sometime later that was denied at first but accepted on the second try). 
I don't think orgs get any smaller or more difficult than trying to gather support to justify the launch of an IX in a region where such a thing is considered foreign concept, yet getting the resources from ARIN was the easiest step.

I see nothing in your arguments that would makes things easier for a small org, speaking as one myself that you claim would benefit. I cringe every time I see claims of "speaking for small orgs". Honestly, it comes off as a self serving agenda with a desire to harm the community to benefit one person. I have been denied in the past but what I didn't do was blow up at the community or develop a vendetta; it made me work to present a better justification for next time. Too bad if "work" is hard for a small org, suck it up or get a different job. If ARIN denied you however many times for resources I'm starting to think it deserved to be denied, but without an unbiased party making it available for the community to review we'll never know the truth.

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