[arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

Seth Mattinen sethm at rollernet.us
Sun Dec 21 18:23:55 EST 2014

On 12/21/14 1:57 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> Well Rob, we would have both of our name servers on topologically distinct networks but ARIN denied our small IPv4 allocation request!  You proved my point that small Orgs have it tougher than larger ones getting resources.

No, small orgs do not have it tougher. An inability to grok the NRPM is 
maybe a personal difficulty, but not a barrier one that warrants policy 
change. I say this as someone who just got ARIN resources to start up an 
IX this September and other resources previously like a /22 for another 
org back when I had to have two /24's from upstreams (and an additional 
sometime later that was denied at first but accepted on the second try). 
I don't think orgs get any smaller or more difficult than trying to 
gather support to justify the launch of an IX in a region where such a 
thing is considered foreign concept, yet getting the resources from ARIN 
was the easiest step.

I see nothing in your arguments that would makes things easier for a 
small org, speaking as one myself that you claim would benefit. I cringe 
every time I see claims of "speaking for small orgs". Honestly, it comes 
off as a self serving agenda with a desire to harm the community to 
benefit one person. I have been denied in the past but what I didn't do 
was blow up at the community or develop a vendetta; it made me work to 
present a better justification for next time. Too bad if "work" is hard 
for a small org, suck it up or get a different job. If ARIN denied you 
however many times for resources I'm starting to think it deserved to be 
denied, but without an unbiased party making it available for the 
community to review we'll never know the truth.


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