[arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Sun Dec 21 16:57:51 EST 2014

Well Rob, we would have both of our name servers on topologically distinct networks but ARIN denied our small IPv4 allocation request!  You proved my point that small Orgs have it tougher than larger ones getting resources.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Seastrom [mailto:rs at seastrom.com] On Behalf Of Rob Seastrom
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:06 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: 'Owen DeLong'; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com> writes:

> But you ignore the reality of life in a small Org that has limited 
> resources.  They are spending all their time just trying to keep their 
> doors open and don't have the extra time to participate even if they 
> want to.

Having worked at tiny organizations for the majority of the time I served on the ARIN AC as well as NANOG committees and board, this argument rings hollow.

At the end of the day, it's a matter of priorities.  Prudence would dictate that one participate in governance and standards bodies if they are doing stuff that directly affects one's business.  Prudence also dictates that one follow BCPs regarding putting nameservers for one's zone on topologically distinct networks.

In both cases, people sometimes prioritize differently, and they often get away with it.  There may even be valid business reasons for doing so (cost outweighs benefit for instance).

But if you choose to not participate, you've still made a choice.


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