[arin-ppml] 2014-1 Out of Region Use

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Mon Dec 15 15:59:27 EST 2014


On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net>
wrote:
>
>
>  *From:* arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
> <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net>] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hannigan
>
>   "Needs testing" isn't actually the problem IMHO. Its not unrealistic to
> ask what someone is going to use the addresses for.  Over the last five
> years, policy ("the problem") has become disconnected with existing
> conditions and vague allowing too much interpretation. Its impossible to
> know what need actually is with the current regime.
>
> I like the idea of not testing /24s. It solves the ambiguity problem. It
> will also make them more attractive and the market more efficient by
> reducing the cost of the transaction and increasing utilization of /24s
> available to the market (legacy).  By utilization I mean capturing actual
> registrations.
>
> To be honest, from a market pressure perspective, what is needed _right
> now_ is a sixth competitive registry. That would sort this mess out right
> quick.
> Best,
> -M<
>
>
> Martin, in the scenario I outlined a few minutes ago, would the transfer
> market substitute effectively for your 6th registry?
>


That's a complicated question. The current transfer market is socialistic
and artificially regulated. A competitive registry will create interesting
reforms. Not just with the needs testing issue or improved legacy address
registration, but policy consistency (compatible transfer policy for
example`) with other regions and last but not least important even if a
residual issue for this discussion, a benefit. Expenses.

To answer your question. I don't think so.

Best,

-M<
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