[arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

[Keith W. Hare]

Steve,

As a legacy resource holder (we have a /24 assigned in 1991), I've been following this list for quite a while. Mostly I follow it silently, but on occasion I spout off.

I am generally in favor of the justification requirements for all IPv4 allocations/assignments although I haven't actually had to justify an IPv4 request under the current policies so I don't know how difficult the process really is.

I do know that know that justifying an ASN assignment earlier this year was pretty easy. (does that mean that I no longer fit into "members of the community that only hold legacy allocations"?)

Keith W. Hare
JCC Consulting, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Steven Ryerse
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:27 PM
To: Gary Buhrmaster
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

Maybe a majority of the vocal community does, but I doubt if you add in all members of the community who do not comment and all the members of the community that only hold legacy allocations, I suspect that might not be the case.  I think the legacy community is speaking volumes by not participating by commenting in this forum.  

Thanks.  

Steven Ryerse
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Buhrmaster [mailto:gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:12 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: Owen DeLong; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com> wrote:
>
> All of those stats are interesting but they are not what is important here.  What is important is how many small Orgs that applied for the minimum allocation (as it was defined at the time of the allocation request) since ARIN was chartered were denied because of needs policy.
>
> I don’t know what that number is but if it is greater than zero, it shouldn’t have happened!  ARIN’s Mission is to Advance the Internet, not to stifle it.

While there is clearly support by some for your position advocating needless number allocations, the majority of the community supports a review to insure that the allocations are actually advancing the Internet, and not just throwing numbers around to whomever asks, whatever their plans (or lack thereof).
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