[arin-ppml] RPKI Relying Agreement

[Andrew Gallo]

Thanks John.  That is a good point, though I would counter that there is 
a difference between the implied agreement that the other registries 
have vs the explicit, click-through agreement ARIN uses.

This could start a whole debate on the strength of an implied agree vs. 
click-though vs. an ink-and-paper agreement.

My point is that I'm concerned the community is silently rejecting the 
agreement. If there is dissatisfaction in the community, I would like to 
try to organize it and turn it into useful and constructive feedback.

RPKI adoption in the ARIN region is lagging behind others.  I understand 
that creating ROAs and validating them are different processes (one 
requiring accepting the Relying agreement, the other not), but I wonder 
how many people are opting out of RPKI all together to avoid the issue 
entirely.

Thank you.




On 12/4/2014 10:55 AM, John Curran wrote:
> Andrew -
>   
>     It would be helpful to ask whether the responder is presently using
>     RPKI services at any of the following other RIRs (check as many as
>     applicable), as similar terms of indemnification are contained within
>     the other RIR agreements governing their RPKI services.
>
> Thanks!
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Andrew Gallo <akg1330 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> (cross posted from NANOG)
>>
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> In the past few months, I've spoken with, or heard second hand, from a number of organizations that will not or cannot sign ARIN's RPKI Relying Agreement.  Acceptance of this agreement is required in order to gain access to ARIN's Trust Anchor Locator (TAL).
>>
>> Given the size and number of these organizations that can't or wont accept the agreement makes me wonder if this is a show stopper that will prevent the adoption of this technology.
>>
>> I've created a quick survey to get an idea of the community's take on this agreement with the idea that if enough organizations indicate it is unacceptable, maybe we can get this agreement changed, or as with other regions, not explicitly required to use the TAL.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10RLBBpL05n1c_H4unHitlsVqNM3rZI5aXAX8iSBc_Kk/viewform?usp=send_form
>>
>>
>> Thank you
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