[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-204 Removing Needs Test from Small IPv4

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Wed Apr 30 20:28:20 EDT 2014


Sandra,

The goal isn't to extend the free pool. There is no goal. We'll exhaust
based on current policy.  This is bad policy that benefits few.

PLease elaborate on your questions about recent assignments. Happy to
educate you.

Best,

-M<

On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, <sandrabrown at ipv4marketgroup.com> wrote:

> Martin:
>
> I think making transfers of already allocated IP's easier,  makes the
> free pool last longer.  This decelerates, not accelerates, exhaustion.
> The impact will probably be slight because the buyers, the transferors,
> are the medium to little guys, not David's 11 who are getting the vast
> majority of the IP's.
>
> Of course, making the free pool last longer could allow companies who
> know how to work the current ARIN policy system, get even more  blocks
> over the next few months.  You don't know of any large companies that
> got a /10 from the free pool lately, do you?
>
> (Smiley)
>
> Best,
> Sandra
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-204 Removing Needs Test from Small
> IPv4
> From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> Date: Wed, April 30, 2014 7:35 pm
> To: "<sandrabrown at ipv4marketgroup.com <javascript:;>>"
> <sandrabrown at ipv4marketgroup.com <javascript:;>>
> Cc: "arin-ppml at arin.net <javascript:;>" <arin-ppml at arin.net <javascript:;>
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> Of course you would say that. (Smiley).
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>
> You think it accelerates exhaustion. Trust me, it needs no help. Sit
> back and let real stakeholders define our own destiny please.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> -M<
>
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> On Apr 30, 2014, at 19:20, <sandrabrown at ipv4marketgroup.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
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>  Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:44:04 -0400
>  From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>  To: John Springer <springer at inlandnet.com <javascript:;>>
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>  Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-204 Removing Needs Test from Small
>  IPv4 Transfers (fwd)
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>  Not in favor. Post exhaustion perhaps.
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> To negate Mr. Hannigan's point,
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> 1) it will not be an abuse vector, as it is only for transfers, not for
> requests from the ARIN free pool.
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> 2) There is no need to wait for exhaustion, as transfers are the same
> pre as post exhaustion.
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> If anything removal of needs justification prior to exhaustion will
> cause the ARIN free pool to last longer.
>
>
> Sandra Brown
> IPv4 Market Group
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