[arin-ppml] Oppose to 2014-02 anti-flip language and 2014-09

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Thu Apr 10 07:22:35 EDT 2014


Thank you for reiterating your opposition to 2014-2 Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip
Language.  I hope others opposed or in support of the Draft Policy will
also post or better yet come to the ARIN 33 in Chicago this coming week.
 There we(AC) will present the draft and ask for guidance on whether to
advance the Draft to Recommended Draft or to modify it accordance with
suggestions received, or simply abandon it for lack of support.

I will say, it is not unreasonable for Draft Policy to emerge which seems
to benefit and individual organization.  It is the right of anyone in the
community to try to shape policy that is favorable to their perceived
needs.  It is however the community's responsibility to review these drafts
and to determine if they believe they are in the larger interest of the
community and therefore worthy of advancing. Thanks to all that make this
process work.

See you in Chicago!

Bill Darte
AC Shepherd 2014-2


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Jay Martin <jaymartin926 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John and community,
>
>
> one of the reasons why the community should oppose the 2014-02 and 2014-09
> as follows, The unfair system only benefits some big firms.
>
>
> Recently, there is one inter-rir transfer  and i would like to discuss the
> story behind the scene.
>
> *ipv4|167.220.224.0/19|American <http://167.220.224.0/19%7CAmerican>
> Registry for Internet Numbers/MOPL|AP|ARIN|20140109|Microsoft Singapore
> Pte. Ltd.|SG|APNIC|20140408*
>
>
> 1. it's original parent block is 167.220.0.0/16 ( now has been split into
> smaller blocks) and has been announced by as3598 and as8071 but this one
> has  been used in Singapore ( out of region use.) and its ARIN whois regi
> info shows country code:SG.    I guess no wondering David is so caring
> about the Out of Region policy too.  Even without this policy, Big firm can
> always do what they want to do.
>
>
> 2.  Let's talk about 2014-02 anti flip language,    this inter-rir
> transferred /19 belongs to MICROSOFT-GP-NET.    I guess this account of
> miscrosoft has not received any ARIN IPv4 in the previous 12months.
> otherwise, ARIN will not approve this transfer.  Hello community, please
> help to recheck to see if MICROSOFT-GP-NET has been allocated ARIN IPv4
> within the past 12months.
>
>
> Besides this account,  Miscrosft has MSFT  which has just received
> 23.96.0.0/13 from ARIN free pool    and has  MICROSOFT  this maybe the
> one who buy large amount of IPs from the bankruptcy organisation.     (
> they also have other ARIN accounts and the above two works as the examples
> here)
>
>
> No wondering David so cares about 2014-02 and 2014-09 to get rid of
> policy restriction to have their IPs either in account MSFT and account
> MICROSOFT to be transferred into Microsoft Singapore Pte. Ltd. ( i guess
> its apnic account is miscrosoft-ap or something similar)
>
>
> The ARIN 33 is just at the corner,  we should seriously discuss  this
> 2014-2 and 2014-09  and I think the policy should not be established to
> favour someone specific, policy should favour the whole community and
> balance the benefits of all shareholders in ARIN region.
>
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
>
> Sample IPs belongs to MICROSOFT as follows,
>
>
>   137.116.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>   137.117.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>   137.135.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>   138.91.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>   141.251.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>     131.253.1.0/24
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  131.253.128.0/17
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>   132.245.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>   134.170.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>   134.177.0.0/16
>
>
>  Microsoft Corp
>
> legacy
>
>
>
>
>
>
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