[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 11:55:55 EDT 2014

All these arguments are most interesting, but of course nothing is certain
until the LAST judge says so...I for one would be/have been anxious to see
these principles tried in court.  If I were a betting man, I would believe
that whatever argument seemed to establish the greatest order and stability
for the Internet as a whole would win out...in the end. But then again,
almost everyone has more legal perspective and experience than I do.....


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:31 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:33 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 2014, at 6:21 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> >
> >> .... or, at the absolute most, a reading of RFC 2050 with all ambiguity
> construed in the registrants' most favorable light.
> >
> > Accepting the point above for sake of argument, here's the relevant
> > section of RFC 2050 -
> >
> >   " 7. The transfer of IP addresses from one party to another must be
> >        approved by the regional registries.  The party trying to obtain
> >        the IP address must meet the same criteria as if they were
> >        requesting an IP address directly from the IR."
> >
> > I do not see a lot of ambiguity here with respect to requiring those
> > receiving addresses to meet the same criteria as those being issued
> > address space, nor with respect to the requirement that the RIRs must
> > approve the transfer.  Please elucidate and construe is you see fit.
> Hi John,
> Plenty of ambiguity. Which criteria must be met for the legacy
> registration? The current RIR criteria? The criteria as practiced by
> InterNIC when ARIN made its promise? The criteria as practiced by
> InterNIC when the legacy registration was made? Some criteria laid out
> directly in RFC2050? If you accept RFC 2050 as controlling, one of the
> RIRs must approve the transfer. Not necessarily ARIN. But in the
> context of ARIN's promise regarding legacy registrations, it's not
> obvious which criteria ARIN is expected to apply when evaluating the
> request. And at least some of the candidates boil down to: are you
> really you? Ok. Transfer approved.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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